Did Ollivander know about the Horcruxes

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 138741

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "M.Clifford" <Aisbelmon at h...> wrote:
> > Carol:
> > > Any thoughts about how much Ollivander might know and how it 
> > > ties in with his disappearance?
> > > 
> > > Carol,
> > 
> > bboyminn:
> > 
> > Hoping this post isn't too short...
> > 
> > For a great theory on Ollivander and the Horcrux wand, see this 
> > post -
> > 
> > Subject: Missing Horcrux = Ravenclaw's
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/136434
> > 
> > For an important and critical quote on this matter -
> > 
> > "The last shop was narrow and shabby. Peeling gold letters over
> > the door read Ollivanders: Makers of Fine Wnads since 382 B.C. 
> > **A single wand lay on a faded purple cushion in the dusty 
> > window**." [PS/SS Am Ed, PB, Pg 102]
> 
> 
> Valky:
> I checked that Link Steve, but I think you might maybe have put the
> wrong message in the link. 
> 

bboyminn:

Actually, the connection between Ollivander, Ravenclaw, and the wand
on the pillow comes out later in that thread. I though it was best to
start at the top of the thread and let people follow it through.

> Valky continues:
> I was skimming through PS/SS just today gathering little tidbits
> with fresh eyes, and I noticed the quote that you've put above and
> remembered your post. ...
> 
> The three largest clues I think here are:
> 
> -The traces of magic in the store.
> 
> -Ollivander looking very closely at Harry's scar and saying "So 
> that's where -" ...
> 
> -Harry not feeling right about Mr Ollivander. 
> 
> -The wand sitting on a cushion in a dusty window. ...
> 
> I think that these things might add up to a very evil Mr Ollivander.
> 

bboyminn:

Maybe it's just a reflection of my own prejudice, but I don't think
Mr. Ollivander is evil; creepy - maybe, but evil - no. Of course, I
have no way of establishing that; it's just my feeling.


> ...edited...
> 
> > Steve: 
> > Someone really needs to check and see if that purple cushion wand
> > is still there.
> > 
 
 
> Valky concludes:
> Arthur tells us the "shop" is empty, no sign of a struggle, ..., and
> there's no mention of the display window specifically. I am curious 
> as to whether it's still there, but I don't think we'll be finding 
> out til book seven.

bboyminn:

Although others seem to disagree, I didn't take 'the shop is empty' to
mean completely barren. I took it to mean that no one could be found
anywhere, but I assumed that Ollivander left his shop and inventory
intact, which is why it didn't look like there was a struggle. The
lack of struggle, to me, implies that the shop was completely normal
except for the fact there wasn't a soul around.

On the overal subject of whether Ollivander knew about the Horcruxes,
I don't think he did. It's true he did have some information that
wasn't common knowledge like the connection between Voldemort and Tom
Riddle, but we know that Dumbledore is scant with information. He
doesn't tell anybody anything they don't need to know and that doesn't
serve Dumbledore. 

The Prophecy is probably a better example as to how Dumbledore
releases information in a very controlled manner. I suspect many
people, like certain people at the Ministry, know about the Prophecy,
some may have even had a general explanation of what it said, but I
think the number who know it word-for-word is very rare.

Now applying that to the Horcruxes, it seems that very few in the
wizard world even know what they are. The information is banned at
Hogwarts by Dumbledore. So this doesn't seem to be information that
Dumbledore is throwing about over tea. Certainly he would keep the
knowledge of the Horcrux in general and of their application by
Voldemort a closely guarded secret. I really don't see any reason for
Ollivander to know.

Just a few thoughts.

Steve/bboyminn