What indicates to me that Slughorn is related to Harry

Cathy Drolet cldrolet at sympatico.ca
Sun Aug 28 11:11:12 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 138922

CathyD:
>>I really would like to see your evidence for this, hg, as it appears 
to go against all that is canon. Dobby's eyes are green too, does 
that make him a relative of Harry's as well?

hg:
>>Surely you didn't intend that to sound as sarcastic and dismissive as 
it does?!  I never said that Slughorn's green eyes were the only 
indicator,

CathyD:
Ah, but that *is* all you posted as evidence in your initial post on the subject.  "> I agree and I'll add (and get laughed off the board for it) that I think Slughorn is Lily's grandfather.  *His eyes are green.*" Emphasis mine, but they were your words.  

As to JKR's quote: "Therefore Harry would be considered only 'half' wizard, because of his mother's grandparents" it makes complete sense.  Lily's grandparents are Muggles, Lily's parents are Muggles, Lily is a witch, James is pureblood.  Harry is Half-blood because Lily is a Muggle-born witch and James is Pure-blood.  Just like Ron and Hermione's children (gasp) will be Half-bloods because Ron is a Pure-blood and Hermione is Muggle-born and her family are all Muggles  "Nobody in my family's magic at all, it was ever such a suprise when I got my letter..." (PS pg 79 Can Ed).

hg
>>-- To close, (for the time being): Slughorn being Lily's grandfather 
is far more palatable than him being a dirty old man.

CathyD: 
Agreed.  More palatable but just as unlikely, IMO. But then, I never once thought of him as a dirty old man, that was somebody else's line.  

The rest of your theory is too far out in left field for me, I'm afraid as it goes against canon evidence to the contrary.  The fact that LIly and Petunia may not look alike doesn't make them half-sisters.  (I knew a set of twins in high school who looked so different from each other you would hardly know they were related, nevermind twins.)  I have to agree with what PJ posted: 

>>By JKR consistently declaring (both in interviews as well as in the books themselves) since book 1  that Harry's _entire_ family - all but Petunia - are dead, she's left herself absolutely no wiggle room to throw in a surprise relative this late in the storyline.  Her doing so now would be a betrayal and I believe she's much too smart to do something so unnecessary.<<
(Thank you PJ and welcome to the list.)  

As was quoted before, by numerous people including myself, JKR said: "As a writer, it was more interesting, plot-wise, if Harry was *completely* alone. So I rather *ruthlessly disposed* of his *entire* family apart from Aunt Petunia."  ENTIRE family.  Not just portions thereof. COMPLETELY alone apart from Petunia.  JKR also gave the indication that her hero, Harry, must go on alone, hence the need for the bearded wizard to die and why there won't be a great-grandfather in the closet.  

PJ:
>>Might I suggest a possible third option?

>>Slughorn is a renowned collector of the talented, famous and influential.  
He's attempted to get Harry into his inner circle since their ride on the 
Hogwarts Express but Harry has refused the bait over and over again.   How 
better to win over an orphaned child than to heap lavish praise on one of 
his parents and then compare Harry to this incredibly wonderful, charming, 
brilliant person?

CathyD:
And a very good third option it is and fits right in with the warning Dumbledore gave Harry that Slughorn would "undoubtedly try and collect you, Harry.  You would be the jewel of his collection: the Boy Who Lived..."  Dratted Boy Who Lived who didn't want to play Slug's game.  Slug was desperate to get Harry to participate in the Club and Harry refused, even planned Quidditch practices around the meetings so he'd have a reason not to go.  If Slug is his great-grandfather, why didn't he just play the family card when trying to win Harry over?  Good grief, anyone as desperate for family as Harry is would have jumped at the bait.  

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