Horcrux in each book?
spotsgal
Nanagose at aol.com
Fri Dec 2 15:59:27 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 143901
> Will:
> "Now that we have seemed to discover a Horcrux from every book,
> do you think that JKR delibertly placed one horcrux in each book?
> I haven't had time to review the third and fourth book, but it
> seems that the first, second, fifth, and sixth all have a Horcrux
> mentioned in them. I don't think it's a coincidence that there
> are 7 books, and 7 Horcruxes."
> Musicgal says:
> Well, I don't think so. Two reasons for this.
> 1) I have no idea where the Horcruxes are from the first book,
> the third book and the fourth book
Christina:
Well if Nagini is a Horcrux (I don't like the idea of LV putting a
Horcrux into something with free will, but Dumbledore seemed pretty
sure about it), then she was introduced in book four. That only
leaves Horcruxes for the third and first books. There has been some
speculation of LV making a Horcrux out of Rowena Ravenclaw's wand,
which may have been the way displayed by Ollivander in the first book.
That's quite an appealing scenario, because it would help explain the
reasons behind Ollivander's kidnapping. So all that would be left is
finding one of the Horcruxes in the third book. Hmm...does there
happen to be a reference in PoA to a cup, ie, Hufflepuff's cup?
> Musicgal
> 2) Seven is a magically powerful number-in fact, that's the
> reason Riddle chose to have seven Horcruxes and not...seventy-two
> or something. Most bording schools (that I know of), start at the
> middle school age, which would mean that there are seven more
> years of schooling. Nothing else...
Christina:
I think there might be a Horcrux in every book, but not just because
there happen to be seven of both. Seven is a number that has huge
significance in JKR's world, and tons of things are related to the
number seven. The idea that there is a Horcrux in each book comes
from JKR's frequent habit of putting things in the earlier books that
come back later with a renewed significance, or things whose true
meaning we do not understand yet (the most obvious of these is Tom's
diary). She's done it with characters (Sirius Black, Dedalus Diggle,
Arabella Figg), magical creatures (Dementors, Boggarts), and bits of
magic (polyjuice potion, the Imperious Curse, Animagi). JKR loves to
play with us, and it would be SO easy to hide her other Horcruxes in
the books without us knowing. After all, if she hadn't told us
specifically that one of the Horcruxes was a locket, we would never
have given a second thought to the throw-away comment in OotP about
the locket at 12GP. Now we can weave whole theories about that one line.
I think of the Horcrux-in-every-book idea as running in a similar vein
as matching each of the seven tasks in PS/SS to the seven books, or
the seven potions bottles to the seven DADA professors. JKR writes in
so many layers that I don't think it's far-fetched to try and make
connections this way- that's the pleasure of reading a series that was
planned out in its entirety from book one.
> Musicgal
> The Horcruxes have to have been with Voldemort after he became
> the Dark Lord. They would have to be hidden. We probably will not
> guess the actual Horcrux-except for the locket...
Christina:
Well, I think that just by chance a few people will guess it before
the seventh book comes out, but I know what you mean. I think you're
right, but that doesn't mean that the remaining Horcruxes aren't
hidden somewhere in the books we already have.
> Musicgal
> I personally think the Gryffindor decendant is a Weasley. The
> whole "seven" thing comes into play again, AND they're all
> pureblood, AND they have red hair AND they've all been in
> Gryffindor...they also have special relics of olden times, like
> the tiara that belonged to Mrs. Weasley's great aunt or something.
Christina:
I think that they are a very good candidate (I think that Harry as the
heir of Gryffindor is so cliche, but that's just me); however, you run
into some thematic problems with that one I think. If JKR wants to
make the descendents of Gryffindor thematically important, it'd be
easiest for her to do if there was basically one surviving descendent
(like with Tom Riddle). If the entire Weasley clan is heir to
Gryffindor, then who steps up to represent it? Remember, it's not
just our 9 Weasleys that are in the family; they have cousins and
other relatives too.
Christina
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