Two scenes for most everyone (was Re: Retribution for Snape the Teacher)

[juli17ptf]

No: HPFGUIDX 144049

Lupinlore wrote:
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> 
> Absolutely and completely.  To allow Snape to go unpunished for his 
> child abuse (and it IS child abuse) would be reprehensible beyond 
> belief.  However, I don't think it's necessarily true that this 
> cannot be done in a manner that does not satisfy most everyone on 
all sides without taking an undue amount of time.  I offer two scenes 
that would do the trick.
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> 
> There.  Neither of those scenes would take much more than a couple 
of pages, and either could fit nicely into the final book without 
> constituting a diversion or a "bump" in the narrative.  
Furthermore, 
> I think either would satisfy almost everyone.  They are short and 
to 
> the point, fitting into the flow of the final book as Miles and 
Steve desire.  They provide karmic retribution and third party 
intervention as Nora, Alla, and I desire.  And they even allow for a 
DDM!Snape. The last even allows for Snape to survive the final book.
> 
> So, I don't think the nature of the final book in any way makes it 
> impossible for most of us to be more-or-less happy with Snape's 
final place on the wheel of karma.
> 
> 
> Lupinlore

Julie:
These two scenes aren't karmic retribution, they are scenes of abject 
humiliation. In the first scene Snape is not genuinely apologizing or 
remorseful for his actions, and in neither scene is there any 
indication that Snape has grown beyond his prejudices and grudges and 
come to understand himself or those around him better (which is what 
Dumbledore wants to see, and why he won't *force* Snape to 
change/apologize/make amends).

If you simply want to see Snape humiliated, that's fine. And I don't 
agree that either of these scenes will satisfy most anyone, though I 
can only say with certainty that they won't satisfy me. I want to see 
Snape genuinely understand where he went wrong, how he misjudged 
people and situations, and make a decison to change his ways (even if 
only marginally). And if Snape apologizes, it has to be what he 
*wants* to do, or at least needs to do, for himself as well as those 
he's wronged. Otherwise, it's completely pointless. 


Julie
(channeling Dumbledore)

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