CHAPDISC: HBP5, An Excess of Phlegm

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Tue Dec 6 02:12:16 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 144140

Juli wrote:

<SNIP> of the summary
>>   Discussion Questions
>    
>   1)     We don't see many people who call Dumbledore by his first 
name. Minerva calls him Albus (PS/SS Ch 1), maybe Mad-Eye Moody 
calls him Albus, perhaps also Fudge, but Molly? That's a first. How 
close do you think the Members of the Order actually are? Molly 
calling him Albus makes me think that all of them see each other as 
family, not only as colleagues. What do you think?


Alla:

I am not quite sure yet, but I think that I do tend to agree with 
you, Juli. I think Order members are quite close, NOT like family, 
but like very close friends united by common cause. If for no other 
reason, than for the fact that they all could die tomorrow, IMO.

I am not saying that Molly and Albus are the closest friends or 
confidantes, but I speculate that Albus gave everybody in the Order 
permission to call him by his name and maybe those who were his 
students just declined to use the offer. 
  

>   4)     What's with Fleur's comment of Gabrielle? (The one when 
she mentions Gabrielle has been talking non stop about Harry). Is it 
a sign of what we may see in book 7, a possible relationship between 
her and Harry? Maybe Gabrielle as a young Ginny?

Alla:

Gah. I hope not. :-) Sorry, Juli. 


>   7)     Why wasn't there a memorial, funeral, or wake for Sirius? 
I know there wasn't a body to bury, but still, those who loved him 
needed to say good-bye: they needed closure.


Alla:

As others said - it is a very good question and I don't have a clue.


>    
>   8)     Do you think that Molly's clock with all its hands 
pointing towards mortal peril is a sign of what may happen in book 
7? Will we be seeing more than one Weasley death? Who do you think 
it will be? When reading this chapter I got flash-backs to Molly's 
bogart in Grimmauld Place. Will all her worst fears come true?


Alla:

See, I don't know. I am pretty confident that we won't lose many 
Weasleys ( and no, I don't think that twins are DE, shudders at the 
thought :)), but even though it is reasonable to assume that at 
least one Weasley will fall, and there are so many of them, I don't 
know about it either.

I read a very nice speculation on Fiction Alley once ( don't 
remember, I may have mentioned it here or not) that the people whom 
JKR wishes Happy Birthday are the people who survive the series, 
because Sirius and Dumbledore are not there, since supposedly they 
are wished Happy Birthday in the present time and ALL Weasleys are 
there. ( On the other hand Snape is there too. :))

Again, one can argue that at least one Weasley and maybe more just 
have to fall, because there are so many of them and it could be lame 
if none of them will die at the end, but I think it is possible.

I can see JKR showing many Dark pureblood families dissappear ( 
Blacks, Malfoys), but Weasleys to survive and thrive as reward of 
them being on the right side.

Just speculating here of course and if Weasley were to die, puttting 
my bets on Charlie too.


  
>   9)     Why do you think Percy still won't come back home? He 
knows that Dumbledore & Co where telling the truth all along, is it 
because "people find it far easier to forgive others for being wrong 
than being right"? Is it just a pride thing?

Alla:

Since I put the blame for Percy's arrogant (IMO) behaviour almost 
completely on Percy's shoulders and not Arthur's or anybody else,. 
my answer is YES it is a pride thing. That is my most charitable 
reading of Percy, by the way.


Great questions, Juli. Thank you.

Alla







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