Snape and GOF

[juli17ptf]

No: HPFGUIDX 144391


>
> Jen
> 
> What I'd still like to know is how Snape passed off that comment 
> about helping dispose of Sirius when Nacissa was sitting right 
there-
> -didn't Dumbledore say Kreacher passed the information about Sirius 
> to Narcissa? Maybe this was figured out right after the release and 
> I missed it, but it seems incongruous.
> 

> 
> sherry now:
> 
> No, this hasn't been figured out yet.  In fact, it's part of why I 
think
> Snape was not lying in that scene.  After all, Narcissa knows who 
gave the
> information that helped set up Sirius.  We only have Kreacher's 
word to
> Dumbledore, told by Dumbledore to Harry, that Kreacher is the one 
who
> spilled the beans.  Ever since reading spinners End, I've wondered 
if it
> really was Kreacher, or if it was a combination of information from 
Kreacher
> and Snape.  After all, if it was Kreacher alone, why wouldn't 
Narcissa speak
> up right then and say something like, Hey, that's not true.  
Kreacher told
> us.  I do think Snape is implicated somehow, and that he helped set 
up both
> Harry and Sirius.  His own words imply it with no denial from 
either of his
> guests.
> 
> sherry
>

Julie: It's also possible that Narcissa contacted Snape to verify the 
information Kreacher passed on to her. At that point Snape would have 
little choice but to confirm it, as he is supposed to be loyal to 
Voldemort. And he could safely tell Bellatrix that he "helped" bring 
down Sirius Black. 

This could also work for the Emmaline Vance murder. I can't see any 
reason for Snape to kill her/get her killed, and we have no hint of 
him being the type to murder just for the hell of it, as Voldemort 
and Peter have done. If he murdered Dumbledore as OFH!Snape, the 
supposition is that it was to save himself, and if ESE!Snape, that it 
was revenge against the Headmaster who'd made Snape dance to his tune 
for so many years. It's always so very personal for Snape! So unless 
we get some other info on Emmaline Vance's murder (that shows Snape's 
safety was imperiled, or reveals some personal vendetta he had 
against her), it's just as likely Snape is using the term "helped" 
(get her killed) in a very liberal manner, deliberately obfuscating 
the issue. 

Julie