Snape as abuser again. Sorry! WAS: Character "rescues"

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Wed Dec 14 18:40:12 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 144740

Miles:
> Certainly, you can use your private definition of child abuse. But 
it is very difficult to take it as a basis for a discussion about 
karmical punishment. I suggested some ten days ago to find a 
definition we all could use in order to have a basis for discussions 
concerning Snape - child abuser or not. But up to now, the supporters 
of the "he is a abuser" fraction couldn't come up> with a uncommitted 
definition (or with any).


Alla:
Actually, I just needed a temporary break from the topic, I did not 
know that not posting on it means that you could not come with 
acceptable definition. :-) So, I do not think that we could come up 
with the definition that works for everybody, but here is the one 
that works for me. Again, that is OF COURSE RL definition.
 "Emotional abuse is a pattern of behavior that attacks a child's 
emotional development and sense of self-worth. Emotional abuse 
includes excessive, aggressive or unreasonable demands that place 
expectations on a child beyond his or her capacity. Constant 
criticizing, belittling, insulting, rejecting and teasing are some of 
the forms these verbal attacks can take. Emotional abuse also 
includes failure to provide the psychological nurturing necessary for 
a child's psychological growth and development -- providing no love, 
support or guidance (National Committee for the Prevention of Child 
Abuse, 1987)."
That DOES describe IMO only of course what Snape does to Neville and 
Harry.


 Miles:
<SNIP>> - if we would use common definitions of child abuse from our 
world, these definitions state that there has to be damage, psychical 
or physical, as a result of child abuse. We can see that kind of 
damage with Dudley, but neither with Harry or Neville or any other 
student that is abused by Snape according to your opinion<SNIP>


Alla:
OK, I am parroting myself of course, but I believe that Snape being 
Neville boggart metaphorically shows that Neville WAS that damaged, 
you know.IMO, JKR uses it as some kind of shortcut, because she does 
not have book space to show Neville having nightmares about Snape or 
something like that, so here we have Boggart, personification of your 
worst fears.It is not a fact, just my opinion obviously, but I think 
it IS a legitimate argument to support "Snape is an abuser" 
claim.Again, IMO only

Alla, who apologises for rearranging Miles words and replying not in 
the order they were written










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