JKRs use of Logic : WAS Who killed Dumbledore/Karmic justice Potterverse again.

va32h va32h at comcast.net
Mon Dec 19 05:40:02 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 144968

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Julie wrote:

> In real life the most logical conclusion is usually (but still not 
> always) the correct one. In JKR's books, the most logical conclusion 
> is quite OFTEN the wrong one. 

va32h here: 

What are some examples of logical conclusions being wrong? Not to be 
argumentative, but I do think that JKR goes with the obvious more 
often than not, even when the obvious answer is disguised as something 
else. 

My examples: Overtly Obvious - Harry's "power the Dark Lord knows not" 
being love. I read soooo many theories that were based on the idea 
that the power couldn't be love - because that was too logical, too 
obvious. But there it is, love, "just love".

Obvious after a lot of thought: Crouch!Moody. Now bear with me...but 
the logical answer to "who cast the Dark Mark at the Quidditch Cup" 
would be "a Death Eater". And that was the case. It was disguised 
under a layer of "Death Eater who was presumed dead but actually in 
hiding for 13 years", but at it's heart, it was the obvious answer. 

Who entered Harry in the Triwizard Tournament - the logical answer 
would be "someone who wishes Harry harm" and under all the 
machinations of the tasks and the cup being a Portkey, it was indeed, 
someone who wished Harry harm. 

Sometimes there are situations in which logic fails us - Sirius Black 
for instance. Everyone thinks Sirius is out to kill Harry, and they 
think it's the logical conclusion (although I personally found the 
explanation that Sirius would think that killing Harry would bring 
back Voldemort to be pretty convoluted). But in that case, everyone is 
missing key information. They are making a logical conclusion based on 
faulty evidence. 

Once we do have all the information - everything that happened is 
perfectly logical. Sirius saying "He's at Hogwarts", trying to get 
into Gryffindor Tower when the students are gone, attacking Ron's bed 
not Harry's, Crookshanks' behavior, Scabbers' ill health, the presence 
of the "Grim", and on and on. 

Which brings us back to Dumbledore on the tower - is Harry making a 
logical conclusion based on incomplete or inaccurate information? 


va32h, who thinks Dumbledore is definitely dead, no matter what Harry 
saw on the tower (or didn't see, or thought he saw).








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