Who killed Dumbledore? WAS: Re: Karmic justice in Potterverse again.

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 144985

> 
> Alla:
> 
> I think he is absolutely competent to decided that Avada was 
> effective , as in  he sees "Avada" thrown at Dumbledore, the next 
> step - Dumbledore is dead.
> 
> Here is my hypothetical for  the RW.
> The person observes the murder, the person sees the killer take out 
> a murder weapon and shoot another person. Another person is dead. 
> The person who observes the murder reaches the conclusion that the 
> person who made the shot is therefore the killer.
> 
> IMO, this is the analogy that is pretty close to what happened on 
> the Tower, no? Keep in mind that I am leaving killer's intentions 
> completely alone for the sake of this argument.

Pippin:
The wielder of Occam's razor is obliged to consider *all* the relevant
facts.
 

The witness was not convinced that he had  observed a  death until he 
reached the body,  which was out of his sight for some considerable
time. In fact he  was intent on reaching the victim in time to help.  
It is not clear that he thought the gunshot had been effective until 
he actually saw that the victim was dead.

It is not in dispute that the witness also saw the victim ingest a 
large quantity of an unknown substance. The victim then experienced 
hallucinations, thirst, unconsciousness, weakness, pallor, 
muscular twitches, drowsiness, ascending motor paralysis, and 
bleeding from the mouth. The victim recognized that he was in 
distress and urgently sought for aid. 

These are indications of *severe* poisoning.

Are you saying you can logically  *rule out*  poison as the cause of death?
That you KNOW he died of the shot?

Why? How? I am not being sarcastic, I really want to know. Am I
missing something?

Pippin