The Twins / Ron / Weasleys

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No: HPFGUIDX 145077

> >>Betsy Hp:  
> > Actually, I think there's a schism running through the Weasley 
> > family, with Arthur, Ron and Percy on one side, and Molly, the 
> > twins, and now, unfortunately, Ginny, on the other. 
> > <snip>

> >>Janelle:  
> <snip>
> Also, they are said to be always mean to Percy.  I see the        
> situation a little differently.  When Percy separates himself from 
> the family, Fred and George greatly increase their dislike for    
> him.  I think that a large part of this is the fact that his      
> leaving hurt their mother so much. 
> <snip>

Betsy Hp:
The twins would probably say the gloves came off after Percy left.  
I'd say they decided to move from fists to knives.  Because, yeah, 
the twins were definitely *mean* to Percy.  They teased him 
mercilessly *before* Percy left.  To such an extent Percy kept his 
girlfriend a secret from the entire family (as no other Weasley has 
done).  To such an extent that not even Percy's workplace (not a 
summer job, the beginning of his career) was off limits.

I think part of their motivation was resentment over Molly's 
constant praise for Percy.  Because I do agree that the twins have a 
special bond with their mother.  And so I also agree that making 
Molly cry was unforgivable to them.  Only Fred and George are 
allowed to put their mother through hell.  Actually, I think only 
Fred and George are allowed to receive *any* attention from Molly at 
all.  Hence their dismal treatment of "perfect" Percy, over the 
years.

> >>kchuplis:
> I know that I sure don't see them as "mean" to Molly. They        
> actually seem fairly devoted in their way, to me. They certainly   
> respect her tongue lashings.
> <snip>

Betsy Hp:
Respect?  They are certainly *entertained* by Molly's high volume 
lectures, but respect?  Wouldn't that require them actually 
*following* her orders?  I agree that Fred and George love their 
mother, but I don't get the impression they think she has anything 
to say actually worth listening to.

> >>Alla:
> How do you know that Ron is about to become twins' enemy?

Betsy Hp:
Well, he might be becoming one *now*, what with his "talk to them 
about who they're selling to" comment in HBP.  

But I was more referring to them constantly pushing Ron down, making 
sure he knew that the twins were not to be messed with.  And I also 
think that Ron really *does* have more in common with Percy than the 
twins, but the twins made sure that Ron never befriended Percy.  
Otherwise Ron would be treated similarly.  And Ron, ignored by 
Molly, younger and smaller than the twins, not all that great a 
secret keeper, would get it a lot worse, I think, than Percy ever 
did.

> >>kchuplis:
> <snip>
> They also learned a lesson about who they sell their stuff to in   
> HBP. 
> <snip>

Betsy Hp:
When did that particular lesson occur?  I don't recall the twins 
even being confronted with the fact that some of their products 
ended up in Death Eater hands.

> >>kchuplis:
> <snip>
> I would certainly put Percy in his own little corner of the world 
> and not an either side of any perceived Weasley schism. Percy is   
> beyond vile and I don't believe that anything can excuse his      
> ambitious little self. But then, I perceive the Weasley
> clan, overall, as about the most normal family we've seen in the   
> wizarding world.

Betsy Hp:
Heh.  Except for the vile little monster they managed to raise?   
The vile creature Molly loved ever so much?  Any family will look 
pretty good if they can cherry pick which family members you judge 
them by.

Percy was *not* created in a vacuum.  He is what Molly and Arthur 
raised him to be.  And, like a true Weasley, he took a strong stand 
for his principles when his back was against the wall. (It's 
interesting to me that Arthur was dead wrong in his assesment of 
Percy's worth to the Ministry.  Percy has been seperated from his 
family for two years and for two administrations, and he's still 
there.)

But Percy *is* like his father (and unlike his mother) in that he 
isn't overly aggressive.  He will blow up if pushed hard enough, but 
he doesn't make noise for the sake of noise.  Which is why I think 
Ron and Percy are more like their father, and Fred and George and 
Ginny are more like their mother.

Betsy Hp (who clipped and cut from various posts in various orders 
in the making of this post)