Slughorn

[kiricat4001]

No: HPFGUIDX 145188

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" 
<dumbledore11214 at y...> wrote:
>
> > > Alla:
> > > You know, it is strange, I am  still trying to work out why 
> > Slughorn 
> > > club gives me creeps and really cannot, because I don't see 
> > anything 
> > > inherently bad in the Slughorn way of doing things .

<snip Potionscat's reply>

> 
> I am still struggling to figure it out. I mean,it is not an 
> exclusivity per se that bothers me. I do NOT mind an exclusivity 
> because of the talent and hard work, I mean as in exclusive club 
of 
> people who worked hard to get there or something like that, it is 
> not even an exclusivity that helps Slughorn that bothers me, 
because 
> even though he expects those kids to help him in the future, IMO 
he 
> helps them and helps them in a very significant way first.
> 
> The fact that Slughorn  takes in people simply for the reason of 
> good connections they have does bother me. THAT is simply for his 
> own gain,IMO and while I don't see anything bad with it, those 
kids 
> do not exactly deserve the honor either, because they only have 
> famous family members or something like that. But why does his 
club 
> bother me SO much? It is not like he is hurting people , you know, 
> he just helps those he thinks most worthy.

Marianne:
What bothers me about it is that Slughorn almost seems to be 
collecting objects rather than people. On one level he's dealing 
with the students as people, but they are all means to an end and in 
some way I find that that de-humanizes them, if that makes sense.  
He picks up the current bunch of glittery baubles, and then discards 
them as their usefulness to him diminishes.  I think it was when he 
mentions to Harry how he wished he could have had both Black 
brothers, like they were some sort of valuable antique bookends or a 
pair of rare butterflies that he could capture and pin under glass, 
that made him seem somewhat off to me.

Alla:
> In any event, I was immensely pleased with him for excluding 
Draco. 
> It was a nice slap in the face for him,IMO. and I don't blame him 
> for exlcuding Theo either, because if his desire is to stay away 
> from DE, I think it would be a very reasonable assumption that son 
> of the DE can spy on him or hurt him in some way.
> 
> As an aside, do you think that inventer of Wolfsbane ( belbey? 
> Felby? ) will show up in the books?
 
Marianne:
Oh, I'm all for someone, anyone to give Draco a bad time.  But I'd 
think that Slughorn, who told DD about his hesitance in making 
himself conspicuous by going back to Hogwards, might have thought 
that making nice with Draco would be a smart tactical move. Unless 
he's sure that Daddy Malfoy will never again weild the sort of power 
and influence he's had in the past.  With Vmort running around 
again, I'm not sure I'd make that bet.


Marianne