Does Snape hate Harry?
horridporrid03
horridporrid03 at yahoo.com
Tue Dec 27 19:20:44 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 145472
> >>KJ:
> This whole hate thing bothers me as well. The dichotomy of Snape's
> character makes very litle sense to me. On the one hand he is a
> young powerful, talented and knowledgeable wizard. How could he
> have accomplished so much in eleven years, if we look at PS/SS,
> if he is the vindictive, vengeful, juvenile, immature wizard we
> have all come to know. How could he be a successful Legilimens if
> he is unable to control his emotions. He isn't getting past
> Voldemort by luck. Why would Dumbledore have the trust he does in
> a wizard with the personality defects shown by Snape.
Betsy Hp:
What a wonderful Christmas gift, Kathryn -- a chance to expound on
the inimitable Professor Snape! My cup runneth over. <g>
I think it's important to realize that Snape is an *extremely*
gifted Legilimens. He's had to be to successfully pull the wool
over Voldemort's eyes. (I'm not going to bother with OFH or ESE
Snape, since I think most folks know they're not my cup of tea. So
assume a DDM interpretation throughout.) JKR told us that an
ability to detach or repress your emotions is vital to practicing
Legilimes (backing up Snape's own instructions to Harry). So I
think it's safe to assume Snape represses. Actually, I think
understanding Snape is impossible without understanding that aspect
of him.
But, there is one place where Snape's talent at repression fails,
and that's the Marauders. Every single time we see him completely
blow his top, the Marauders are somehow involved. And Harry, with
his strong link to the Marauders, is usually along to see the
explosion. I'm quite sure Dumbledore is aware of Snape's weak spot
with the Marauders. After all, he was there when that particular
button was installed. He may *underestimate* it's ability to
completely throw Snape, but he certainly knows of its existence.
(Just as I think Dumbledore is aware of Harry's weakness regarding
Snape.)
> >>KJ:
> Most of his skills and talents were kept hidden until the fifth
> and sixth books to encourage readers to believe that he was
> ineffective and bitter as a result. Will there be some other skill
> or talent, we will see in the seventh book.
Betsy Hp:
I have a feeling we have all of the hints of Snape's skills right
now. I doubt JKR will come up with something completely new for
book 7. But I also think we've had hints of Snape's prowess
throughout the books. I mean, it doesn't come *completely* out of
left field that Snape is so gifted at DADA. (Frankly, I was
surprised that Snape wasn't the inventor of Wolfsbane.) But JKR has
done a good job at undermining the hints she's given.
Lupin is an especially good tool for that. His bit about Snape
being upset about the Order of Merlin is a perfect example. When
has Snape ever looked like he was seeking a spot-light? But Harry
trusts Lupin, we trust Lupin, so we take him at his word. However,
to my mind it makes more sense that Snape is disappointed that not
only did Sirius get away, but that he was never guilty in the first
place. It must have been very comforting to think that Sirius
really *was* rotten to the core and finally all the WW knew it. (I
think his disappointment is on par with the disappointment several
listies will feel if it turns out that Snape's been a good guy all
along. <g>)
> >>KJ:
> Has his behaviour to Harry and Neville been specifically to
> provide memories to show Voldemort on his return?
> <snip>
Betsy Hp:
With Neville, I think Snape has just been a rather strict and scary
teacher. I don't think Snape was motivated by anything other than a
desire to force the requisite Potions knowledge into Neville's
head. I know his methodology leaves a lot of listies crying abuse,
but frankly, I don't think his method is all that far removed from
McGonagall's.
Now, the scene just before Neville faces his boggart, with Snape
badmouthing Neville to Lupin *was* out of line. Horribly so. But I
personally think that had more to do with Lupin than Neville. Snape
had apparently forgotten Lupin was bringing his class into the
staffroom, and he lashed out. Absolutely it was childish, but
again, the behavior had a Marauder at its core. (Not at all
comforting for poor Neville, I realize.)
> >>KJ:
> It seems as if we have two completely different Snapes here.
Betsy Hp:
I think we do. We have Harry's version of Snape, where all of his
bad behavior is enlarged, and we have the real Snape. The one
Dumbledore knows, and the one Harry needs to see, I think, before
the seventh book ends.
Betsy Hp
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