Real child abuse/ Snape again

Miles miles at martinbraeutigam.de
Sat Dec 31 01:41:02 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 145639

dumbledore11214 wrote:
> Miles, I cannnot help but feel that you are questioning my expertise
> to decide what constitute abuse and what is not. I think that three
> years of working with domestic violence survivors and getting
> adequate training,  means that I am competent to decide what
> constitutes abuse and what is not. You disagree with me, that is
> your right. But you seem to say that "Snape is not abuser" is fact.
> That is only your opinion, in my opinion.

Miles:
I do not think that personal expertise is decisive in our discussion. I
rarely is in any discussion. I could be a professor for children's
psychiatry, but for all that I still could be wrong. You may have recognised
that several people referred to their personal expertise. I did not - and I
really do not want to discuss it, because it leads us to nowhere.

AFAIR I was the first one to ask for definitions of abuse and to bring in a
definition in order to structure the discussion. Later you introduced a
definition of emotional abuse - which is similar to the English and German
definitions I found so far - and tried to show Snape's actions as abuses of
this kind.
What you missed (and I neither think you intended to do nor that the reason
is a lack of personal expertise on your side) is to point out, that the kind
of relationship between abuser and abused when speaking of emotional abuse
has to meet special conditions, like trust, dependence, and exclusiveness.
These conditions, to speak of Harry, are met by Dumbledore, Sirius, maybe
Molly and Arthur - but never by Snape.

To speak of my opinion or your opinion - I really think in this special
point the "IMO" is a meta one: In my opinion your understanding of the
definition is wrong, missing decisive elements; it is not only a different
opinion. I'm speaking of your understanding of the concept of emotional
abuse, of nothing more.
You may be right with your basic assumption that Snape is an abuser, though
I personally doubt it - IMO he is not. But the term "emotional abuse" - no.
Other forms of child abuse - maybe, yet to be discussed.

Miles, trying to be ad rem, showing off his Latin ;)





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