Who was with Voldemort at GH? (Re: Portrait in GH)

Jen Reese stevejjen at earthlink.net
Sat Dec 31 04:15:02 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 145643

CH3ed:
> I don't know. IMO the magic of leaving an imprint of a deceased 
> wizard as a portrait probably wasn't invented/discovered yet back 
> in the Founding Fathers' time. If there are portraits of the FF in
> the Head's Office, then DD and other headmasters shouldn't have
> had such a hard time finding the Chamber of Secrets... and they
> should have known of certain about the existence of one (from what
> Binn said it seems the CoS was considered a legend rather than 
> factual). 

Jen: Hmmm, maybe you are right about no portraits of the Founders. 
Darn. Will have to rethink who might have had a portrait at Godric's 
Hollow. About the COS though, not even the Founders could verify the 
existence for sure. Even if Slytherin told the other Founders he was 
leaving the chamber behind, they still were not able to prove it 
according to Binns. My impression was it became a legend when no one 
could locate it, not the other way around.

CH3ed:
> Also it seems to me if the portraits of the FF are in the office 
> they would be the ones the other portraits(and probably most of
> the Headmasters) defer to, instead of remaining so quiet for 6 of
> 7 books. Also, I would think that the FF, being so revered, would
> be the ones to have their portraits in MoM and other places, so DD 
> would have used one of two of them to go check on Arthur in OotP 
> rather than the 2 he used (the witch was used because her other 
> portrait was at St. Mungo's... but if any portrait of the FF exist 
> then I'd think there'd be at least one of them at St. Mungo's as 
> well...perhaps Ravenclaws' for inventing a cure for some bad 
> diseases).

Jen: Boy, you keep piling up the evidence, don't you? ;) OK, so if 
the alleged portrait at Godric's Hollow was not Godric himself, it 
would need to be someone with a portrait in the head's office so 
Dumbledore was warned the minute Voldemort arrived, before the house 
was blown up.

Although...much as I like the portrait idea, Fortescue and Dippet 
were the only two former heads Harry learned by name who didn't have 
a portrait somewhere else, right? That might be an interesting twist 
if one of them warned Dumbledore, but it's not really the 'AHA' I'm 
expecting Godric's Hollow to be. A bigger deal would be if someone 
was with Voldemort that night, a question JKR refuses to answer.
Snape would be the biggest surprise, and Harry did have that dream 
the first night after meeting Snape where Snape's 'laugh became high 
and cold--there was a burst of green light...' indicating the 
possibility Snape and Voldemort are connected in his mind somehow 
(unless that was just a red herring for PS). 

The only problem is Snape was already on DD's side by then and would 
have tried to warn Dumbledore, unless Voldemort surprised him with 
the trip to GH. Snape would be tricky, if he was there from the 
start, you'd think (or Harry would anyway) that thwarting Voldemort 
from killing the Potters and Harry would be well worth blowing his 
cover for. If he came without Voldemort's knowledge and was too 
little too late, would it really matter? I feel like we have enough 
built up between Snape and Harry to fuel the fire, more seems like 
overkill.

Who else would be a WOW, though? Peter or Lucius wouldn't be a big 
surprise. Now perhaps Bella was there, could that have been what she 
meant about being trusted with 'his most precious....'; instead of 
his most precious treasures, i.e. horcruxes, how about his most 
precious mission? That might explain why she went to the Longbottoms 
if she learned something about the prophecy at Godric's Hollow. 
Still, even if her presence connects the dots she wouldn't be 
*unexpected*. I get the feeling we will be surprised by who was 
there because JKR has kept it so secretive. Another traitor, then? 

CH3ed:
> But I agree with Jen that Albus and Aberforth Dumbeldore might be
> Gryffindor's heirs.

Jen: Cool! 







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