Who was with Voldemort at GH?
juli17ptf
juli17 at aol.com
Sat Dec 31 17:40:11 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 145661
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> Alla wrote: <snip>
> "I think that Snape IS a best candidate to be at Godric Hollow,
> simply because the BANG will be even bigger and IMO you can never
> have enough hate built up between Harry and Snape."
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> CH3ed:
> I think Snape is indeed a candidate for the biggest BANG. Like Jen,
> I also think it might be a bit of an overkill tho. It is hard to
> imagine any more hate is possible between Harry and Snape. I think
> their mutual hate bond is getting over-saturated. Anymore would
make
> it impossible for any reconciliation in the end even if Snape does
> turn out to be DDM. While I agree with KathyO that Snape's remorse
> has to do with Lily's death and it might have been on Snape's
> request that LV tried to spare Lily, I don't think that constitutes
> conclusive evidence that Snape was at GH when LV attacked. LV
didn't
> mention Snape's presence when he was recounting the scene to the DE
> in the graveyard scene in GoF.
>
Julie now:
I agree that we don't need any additional reason to stoke Harry's
hatred of Snape, if Snape is DDM. What we need is reasons for Harry
to step back from his feelings and take a second look at Snape, and
to realize that Snape is not the one-note bad guy Harry believes he
is.
While I also agree that Snape's remorse is tied to Lily's death more
than James', if he's DDM I think he didn't want *either* to die, and
did try to prevent their deaths. I also don't believe Snape was at
Godric's Hollow with Voldemort pleading for Lily's life, or made any
deal that Lily would be spared specifically for him. Since I'm firmly
in the DDM camp, I don't see any way Snape making a deal to spare
Lily while coldly condoning the deaths of James, and Lily's baby boy,
can work. If Snape was willing to make that deal, certainly DD
wouldn't trust him, and it's doubtful such a self-serving Snape would
bother with 16 years of servitude to Dumbledore's wishes. (Though I
do think Snape could have pleaded for the lives of the *Potter
family* by stating or implying his feelings for Lily, and Voldemort
could have used this knowledge to offer Lily her life, intending to
present Snape with a "reward" for his good service so to speak.)
Still, I *do* think Snape is a good candidate for the unknown person
at Godric's Hollow. But if he was there (and assuming as DDM) then he
was not there helping Voldemort. Here is my theory:
Snape arrive at Godric's Hollow right *after* Voldemort had killed
James and Lily. Either he was following Voldemort, suspicious of what
Voldemort was doing, or he was with Voldemort and waiting nearby for
Voldemort to finish a task about which he had no knowledge (since
Snape wasn't the secret keeper, he had no way of knowing Godric's
Hollow was the Potters hiding place). Once James and Lily died, the
secret keeper protection was lifted, and Snape would be able to see
the house (and probably feel through the Dark Mark that something had
happened to Voldemort). At that point he would have notified
Dumbledore by Patronus or other means (thus explaining how Dumbledore
found out so quickly).
At this point Snape may have simply left the scene, knowing
Dumbledore would send someone. Or he may have gone into the house and
seen James and Lily dead, and Harry still alive. (The question here
is whether Voldemort in his vapor form could have known who came in
the house?). I also wonder if it could have been Snape
who "destroyed" the house, to hide the evidence of magic, while
obviously insuring the bodies of the Potters, and the surviving boy-
who-lived were protected from the destruction. (I've frequently
wondered how Harry remained alive and safe inside the house if it was
completely destroyed by the failed AK.)
Anyway, I'm certain *if* Snape was the unknown person at Godric's
Hollow, it was as DDM, not as helper of Voldemort. And I like the
continued irony of Harry's images of Snape, including seeing Snape in
PS/SS and hearing the high cold laugh, and the dragon image, if Snape
*was* at GH, and was in fact working with Dumbledore to help save
baby Harry after the fact.
Julie
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