Who was with Voldemort at GH? /quick PoA question./Real child abuse

h2so3f h2so3f at yahoo.com
Sat Dec 31 08:38:08 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 145651

Jen wrote: <snip>
 "About the COS though, not even the Founders could verify the 
existence for sure. Even if Slytherin told the other Founders he was 
leaving the chamber behind, they still were not able to prove it 
according to Binns. My impression was it became a legend when no one 
could locate it, not the other way around."

CH3ed:
Yeah, I think you have it right there. I bet that didn't do anything 
to leave the remaining 3 FF's irritation with Slytherin after he 
left. ;O)


Jen wrote:
 Boy, you keep piling up the evidence, don't you? ;) 

CH3ed:
Sorry, bad habit from work. ;O)  You're right; tho, if the witness 
at GH was a portrait that portrait should have had a copy at 
Hogwarts Head's Office. I don't think we know that Fortescue and 
Dippet don't have a a portrait or two hanging anywhere beside in the 
Head's Office yet. If anything I expect that if Fortescue the ex-
headmaster was related to Florean Fortescue of the ice cream parlor, 
then there should have been a copy of his portrait at Fortescue's 
residence or at the parlor (tho Harry hadn't noticed it for us) and 
DD may have had a good idea of what happened to Florean.


Alla wrote: <snip>
"I think that Snape IS a best candidate to be at Godric Hollow, 
simply because the BANG will be even bigger and IMO you can never 
have enough hate built up between Harry and Snape." 


CH3ed:
I think Snape is indeed a candidate for the biggest BANG. Like Jen, 
I also think it might be a bit of an overkill tho. It is hard to 
imagine any more hate is possible between Harry and Snape. I think 
their mutual hate bond is getting over-saturated. Anymore would make 
it impossible for any reconciliation in the end even if Snape does 
turn out to be DDM. While I agree with KathyO that Snape's remorse 
has to do with Lily's death and it might have been on Snape's 
request that LV tried to spare Lily, I don't think that constitutes 
conclusive evidence that Snape was at GH when LV attacked. LV didn't 
mention Snape's presence when he was recounting the scene to the DE 
in the graveyard scene in GoF.

In my twisted moments I suspect old Figgy as the witness. She is a 
squib... someone whose presence nobody (in the WW) would pay 
attention to. She has a good surprise quality for it. :O)


Alla wrote: <snip>
"And don't forget that JKR said that Fawkes is Albus' possession, 
not Hogwarts." 

CH3ed:
Yeah! In my case the absence of Fawkes in the fight at the end of 
HBP pretty much seals the deal for me that DD anticipated his own 
assassination (I don't say he expected it, but I think he foresaw it 
as a possibility). Phoenixes are loyal. I think only DD ordering him 
to stand down would have prevented Fawkes from showing up to swallow 
Snape's AK or wisk DD away from the tower scene with that firy 
apparition thing that Fawkes does.


Alla wrote: <snip>
"Trelawney's ancestor name is Cassandra. Is it the same Cassandra? 
Does it mean that Trelawney IS able to teach her students something 
at least, since she knows which books to select? Maybe the real Seer 
will emerge from the students in book 7?"

CH3ed:
I think it is probably the same Cassandra (I think Umbridge confirms 
it is OotP when she audited Trelawney's class, I could be wrong 
tho.. don't have OotP to check at the moment). I suspect Trelawney 
picks the book because of her connection with her famous great great 
grandmother more than anything. She's a bit of a show off (except 
that most of the time she shows herself to be a fraud rather than 
real seer). I think Firenze is right about her having the gift but 
discredits herself by making bogus frivolous predictions.

CH3ed  :O)








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