Confusion about the TT. DD knows everything...

vmonte vmonte at yahoo.com
Sun Feb 6 22:09:54 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 124077


>vmonte:
<snip>
She was given permission to use it for her classes but it gave her
several months of training until she got to use it for Dumbledore's
intended purpose.

>Betsy responded:
How on earth did Dumbledore know that Hermione would
need to use the Time Turner by the end of the year? Wouldn't
that mean he would also know that Sirius was innocent and that
Scabbers was Wormtail? It doesn't make sense to me, and
frankly, the whole story falls apart if Dumbledore knew what was
coming.<<

>then Sandra:
BINGO! An excellent point, Betsy, and I agree entirely. I hadn't
even considered the "months of training" scenario, and it's rather
wide of the mark. Dumbledore's role is vague enough
(especially in OoTP where he witholds info from Harry all the way
through) without him being elevated to a "He Who Knows All"
status.

vmonte now:
I understand what you are both saying but consider this:

SS, "The Man With Two Faces", Page 302

"D'you think he meant for you to do it?" said Ron. "Sending you your
father's cloak and everything?"

"Well," Hermione exploded, "if he did--I mean to say--that's terrible-
-you could have been killed."

"No, it isn't," said Harry thoughtfully. "He's a funny man,
Dumbledore. I think he sort of wanted to give me a chance. I think
he knows more or less everything that goes on here, you know. I
reckon he had a pretty good idea we were going to try, and instead of
stopping us, he just taught us enough to help. I don't think it was
an accident he let me find out how the mirror worked. It's almost
like he thought I had the right to face Voldemort if I could..."

"Yeah, Dumbledore's off his rocker, all right," said Ron proudly.


This bit of information is in book 1. It implies pre-planning by
Dumbledore as well as the possible training of students by
Dumbledore. Dumbledore didn't really know Harry as yet since this is
his first year of school. How did he guess/know that Harry would go
after Voldemort?

Why didn't he think to give Harry Chess lessons as well? What good
would it do Harry to understand the mirror if he couldn't get past
the chess game? Did he already know that Ron excelled in chess? How
about Snape's Potion Riddle. Do you really think that Harry or Ron
would have figured this one out? They would have been stuck there for
years. How lucky for Harry that Hermione just happened to be with
them...

Vivian

(SSSusan do you remember our theory now?)








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