Confusion about the TT. DD knows everything...

horridporrid03 horridporrid03 at yahoo.com
Sun Feb 6 22:53:52 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 124084


>>vmonte now:
>I understand what you are both saying but consider this:

>SS, "The Man With Two Faces", Page 302

>"D'you think he meant for you to do it?" said Ron. "Sending you your 
father's cloak and everything?"
>"Well," Hermione exploded, "if he did--I mean to say--that's 
terrible- -you could have been killed."
>"No, it isn't," said Harry thoughtfully. "He's a funny man, 
Dumbledore. I think he sort of wanted to give me a chance. I think he 
knows more or less everything that goes on here, you know. I reckon 
he had a pretty good idea we were going to try, and instead of 
stopping us, he just taught us enough to help. I don't think it was 
an accident he let me find out how the mirror worked. It's almost 
like he thought I had the right to face Voldemort if I could..."
>"Yeah, Dumbledore's off his rocker, all right," said Ron proudly.
 
>This bit of information is in book 1. It implies pre-planning by 
Dumbledore as well as the possible training of students by 
Dumbledore. Dumbledore didn't really know Harry as yet since this is 
his first year of school. How did he guess/know that Harry would go 
after Voldemort?
>Why didn't he think to give Harry Chess lessons as well? What good 
would it do Harry to understand the mirror if he couldn't get past 
the chess game? Did he already know that Ron excelled in chess? How 
about Snape's Potion Riddle. Do you really think that Harry or Ron 
would have figured this one out? They would have been stuck there for 
years. How lucky for Harry that Hermione just happened to be with 
them...<

Betsy:
The way I see it, Harry was completely wrong.  Dumbledore did *not* 
want Harry to go after the Stone.  He did *not* want Harry to have 
his chance to face Voldemort.  Dumbledore's behavior in OotP makes 
that perfectly clear.  He would do anything to *delay* the meeting of 
Harry and Voldemort for as many years as he could.

Also, Harry going after the Stone very nearly screwed the entire WW.  
Only Harry could get the Stone from the mirror, and if Dumbledore 
hadn't shown up when he did, Quirrell would have killed Harry and run 
off with the Stone, and Voldemort would have been sitting pretty.  
(Harry was left in a three day coma, which is pretty serious in the 
RW, and is probably fairly serious in the WW where they throw off 
injuries relatively easily.)

Actually, there's a bit of a parrallel between PS/SS and OotP in that 
Harry puts himself and his friends in danger in order to face what he 
sees as a threat, and the threat turns out to be not so much.  And in 
both cases, Harry's very presence almost gives Voldemort exactly what 
he's seeking.  (Hmmm.  Should we be keeping an eye on Ginny in the 
next book?)

Betsy







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