CHAPTER DISCUSSIONS: Chapter Thirty seven - The lost prophecy . REPOST

[hickengruendler]

No: HPFGUIDX 124112


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Magda Grantwich 
<mgrantwich at y...> wrote:
 
> 
> >2. Harry blames himself for Sirius's death. Do you?
> 
> Hell, yes.  Harry and Sirius both.

Hickengruendler:

I snipped all your reasons why exactly you blamed them for what 
happened. Of course you have good points and it's hardly to argue 
them. But I still think that Sirius' death was the end of a chain of 
unwise actions and wrong decisions in desperate circumstances. 
Therefore I won't really blame anybody, except of course Bellatrix 
and Voldemort. It's the same as in the end of PoA, had Harry not 
spared Wormtail, Voldemort would never have returned. But still Harry 
is not to blame for Voldemort's return, as Dumbledore rightly says.
> 
> Question: how did Sirius know
> Neville's name?

Hickengruendler:

Sirius and the Longbottoms were in the Order together, and when 
seeing Moody's photo, Harry noticed that Neville looked like Alice. 
Maybe Sirius recognized Alice's son, because he looked like her.
 
> >3. Dumbledore is sure that Harry IS the person the prophecy talks 
> >about. Are you? 
> 
> Yes.  Seven book titles prove the point. Far too late now to change
> that.

Hickengruendler:

But wouldn't it be *the* plot-twist nobody expects, if Voldie is not 
defeated by Harry, but by Neville or even somebody else? I think JKR 
could do this and still make the books and even the climax about 
Harry, if she does it cleverly.
 
> 
> >5.  Dumbledore blames himself for Sirius death. Do you?
> 
> No.

Hickengruendler:

Neither do I, for the reason I already mentioned. But I do think that 
he's at least as responsible as Harry, because he could have told him 
what is in the DoM much earlier.
   
> >9. Dumbledore tells us that Sibyll is the great granddaughter of 
> >Cassandra Trelawney. As we know from mythology, nobody believed 
> >Cassandra's predictions which turned out to be true. Do you think 
> >that JKR is hinting that Sibyll is a more gifted seer that 
> >Dumbledore thinks? Do you think that there is more to Sibyll than 
> >meets the eye?
> 
> Well, she's a real Seer, and you can't control when or where she'll
> pop out with a prophecy so that's why she's more or less permanently
> incarcerated at Hogwarts.  Beyond that she's a sad lonely woman 
who's
> very insecure and vulnerable.  Reminds of Blanche Dubois in 
Streetcar
> Named Desire "depending on the kindness of strangers".

Hickengruendler:

I agree. I feel sorry for her and I'm glad that she has found her 
niche in Hogwarts. I think tormenting her was one of the worst things 
Umbridge did, because Sybill is so obviously helpless.
  
> 
> If I was betting in a pool, I'd say Pettigrew, because sneaking
> around and eavesdropping sounds like his kind of safe activity 16
> years ago.

Hickengruendler:

But the eavesdropper was caught, and Dumbledore knew this. Therefore 
if it was Wormtail, the Order must have known about it, and the 
Potters wouldn't have made him secret keeper.
  
Hickengruendler