CHAPTER DISCUSSIONS: Chapter Thirty seven - The lost prophecy . REPOST

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--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "hickengruendler"
<hickengruendler at y...> wrote:

I agree that neither Harry not Voldemort are at fault for Sirius'
death, but both would do well to try to learn from their mistakes
which contributed (through no fault of their own) to what happened.

> > Question: how did Sirius know
> > Neville's name?

I assume because he saw him at the train station with his grandmother
when he accompanied them in his dog disguise. He would have recognized
the grandmother. He may also have seen him at school when he hounded
the grounds as a dog in PoA.

> > >3. Dumbledore is sure that Harry IS the person the prophecy talks 
> > >about. Are you? 

> Hickengruendler:
> 
> But wouldn't it be *the* plot-twist nobody expects, if Voldie is not 
> defeated by Harry, but by Neville or even somebody else? I think JKR 
> could do this and still make the books and even the climax about 
> Harry, if she does it cleverly.

Well, obviously it would not be such a surprising plot twist since so
many have suggested it. But in my opinion it would ruin the story and
the main point that JKR is trying to convey - namely that people's
choice determine their fate. Voldemort chose his opponent when he
marked Harry. Whether that was preordained for other yet unknown
reasons, or the result of his own prejudices, does not really matter.
At that point Voldemort's adversary was decided, and since then has
been primed for the final confrontation. Harry has faced challenges
from early on (beginning with the Dursleys abuse), that no one else at
Hogwarts has, certainly not Neville with his fairly sheltered
childhood - not counting parent's disaster of course, but that
happened when he was a baby, and relegated to annual or bi-annual
visits. Neville has not had to face any of Harry's challenges up until
the end of book 5. He proved himself level headed in battle and very
loyal, but a classic number 2 - whereas Harry has certainly
distinguished himself as a natural born leader in this book.

I believe that Neville will play an important role in the fight
against Voldemort and his DE's, but that his role will be in defeating
Bellatrix - each will take on their own parents' attackers. Harry and
Neville are the only two characters in the books who seem consumed by
defeating evil. Hermione and Ron have other goals in mind (Hermione's
pursuit of social justice to all and academic success, Ron's desire
for personal fame, their developing romantic relationship, ...). Ginny
is into dating, etc. Of the kids, only Harry and Neville feel the
fight on a personal level.

So Neville will be Harry's number 2 in the fight, in my opinion...

Salit