JKR's Time Turner (Was *MY* Time Turner)

[vmonte]

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<"K" wrote:

I have no idea how JKR is going to use time-travel but I do believe
we will see it again. Though I'm not a fan of time-travel at all I'm
going to trust the author.

If a person uses the time turner and he can't change/affect time,
then surely that would mean the time turner will only be used to
show us the past or future. Sort of like the Pensieve. It would
serve no other purpose that I can think of.

BUT, when JKR introduced time-travel in PoA, she made a point of
pointing out that there are indeed problems with time traveling if
one is not careful. In order to ignore those warnings, one has to
excuse the word of McGonagall and Hermione in some way. McGonagall
is exaggerating and Hermione is tired or some other excuse. I just
don't buy into that line of thinking.

Hermione is insistent that *they must not be seen* and they are not
to *change anything*. If it won't matter, then why does the author
have Hermione repeat those phrases numerous times?

I'll just list some of the time traveling scenes and leave it at
that.

vmonte responds:
Hi K, great post. I agree with you; I think that Dumbledore can 
indeed change history via time travel. Thanks for posting all the 
great quotes. I'm going to print a copy of them for myself. (I'll 
also probably use them at another site.) ;0) 

I was wondering if perhaps Dumbledore was using the penseive not just 
as a recorder of day-to-day memories (that he then reviews to find 
links and patterns), but as a means of preserving memories before he 
decides to TT and perhaps make time-line changes. I mentioned the 
other day that I noticed that the penseive had rune symbols on it and 
wondered if it was some kind of divination gadget. 

I did some research on Runes and found out that:
"Runic divination or "rune casting" is not "fortunetelling" in the 
sense that one actually sees the future. Instead, runes give one a 
means of analyzing the path that one is on and a likely outcome. The 
future is not fixed. It changes with everything one does. If one does 
not like the prediction, one can always change paths."

This may suggest that Dumbledore may be using the penseive as 
a "strategist" would. He analyzes what he sees and only moves forward 
with a plan (or with TT) when he can predict a positive outcome. 

>Vivamus wrote: (In an unrelated post that was linked here.) 
 The second trio of women who complete Harry as equals are still 
developing into their roles, but Hermione as McGonagall's protégé has 
been obvious from the start. Luna, with her silvery eyes, name, 
personal grief, touching struggles with being picked on, and matter 
of fact compassion, seems to be stepping into the role of spiritual 
complement to Harry. That leaves Ginny to pick up the third area of 
body complement, or soul-mate.

vmonte responds:
Vivamus also got me thinking about Hermione, Ginny, and Luna but in a 
different/unrelated way  (great post by the way--I agree with your 
comments). 

Hermione has mentioned that she likes her Rune's classes. I also 
noticed that Luna was reading/working on a Rune puzzle on the train 
when she was  introduced in OOTP. And at the end of OOTP Ginny is 
woking on a Rune puzzle from Luna's Quibbler paper. I'm not sure why 
this is relevant except that perhaps the penseive is specific to this 
field of magic. Will the girls learn about how penseives are used in 
school? Will someone other than Dumbledore begin to do Rune casting 
as a way to strategize against Voldemort? Who knows...

OOTP Page 529, U.S. edition
paperback:

Occlumency Chapter

"Harry's attention was drawn toward the desk, however, where a 
shallow stone basin engraved with runes and symbols lay in a pool of 
candlelight. Harry recognized it at once--Dumbledore's Penseive."

Rune quote from: 
http://www.sunnyway.com/runes/

Vivian