JKR's Time Turner (Was *MY* Time Turner)
meltowne
meltowne at yahoo.com
Wed Feb 9 21:24:56 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 124273
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "koinonia02" <Koinonia2 at h...>
wrote:
> "K":
> BUT, when JKR introduced time-travel in PoA, she made a point of
> pointing out that there are indeed problems with time traveling if
> one is not careful. In order to ignore those warnings, one has to
> excuse the word of McGonagall and Hermione in some way. McGonagall
> is exaggerating and Hermione is tired or some other excuse. I just
> don't buy into that line of thinking.
>
> Hermione is insistent that *they must not be seen* and they are not
> to *change anything*. If it won't matter, then why does the author
> have Hermione repeat those phrases numerous times?
No, you don't have to ignore McGonagall's warnings, or Hermione's.
McGonagall warns that terrible things have happened to wizards who
encountered themselves. If you consider the possibilty of paradox, I
would expect as much. If H&H see themselves on the way out to
Hagrid's the first time, don't you think they would stop to ask what
they were doing there? Hermione might understand what's going on, ut
would Harry maybe think someone had Polyjuiced into him? Who would
he suspect, and what would he think their purpose was? It could
cause him to not go to Hagrid's in the first place, which would
significantly change the past for their timeturning counterparts. If
the keep themselves from going to Hagrids, none of the other events
of the evening happen, and Sirius is not in the tower to be saved.
The same applies later, if they are seen when the trio leaves
Hagrid's hut. If they delay themselves, Peter gets away, and they
don' find out about Sirius.
Later, at the lake, Harry realized that he did, in fact see himself.
But when he did, he was being attacked by the dementors, so he
thought it was his father. He rationalized that his father had
somehow come to save him. Would he have done the same if he had come
face-to-face with himself?
Hermione gives her warnings because she believes everything she has
been told about the time-turner. Notice also that she is most
concerned with not being seen. Changing time is a serious violation
of the law, and she does not want to be caught.
Truth be told, we don't know where the time-turner came from. Is it
one of the devices Dumbledore has had in his office, or did they get
it from the ministry - if they did, I would think the minister would
have been aware that one of the students was using one all year.
Remember, Dumbledore asks Snape if he knows of a way for the kids to
be in 2 places at once - in front of the minister. If time travel is
that highly regulated, I would expect the minister to know about it.
I'm now beginning to suspect that Snape does know about it, but is
sworn to secrecy. He knows Hermione has it, and has been using it
all year, but can't say anything. If he does, he risks trouble for
Dumbledore.
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