Dumbledore the Counselor (was: Dumbledore the General)

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--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "lupinlore" <bob.oliver at c...> wrote:

> 
> True.  And that argues EXACTLY AGAINST the point you seemed to be
> making before. 

Whiz: 
This seems to be your answer to everything.  It is already old.

lupinlore: 
Is Dumbledore a heartless manipulator who sees Harry
> as a weapon or is he someone who loves Harry as a person?  He can't be
> both.  Either he sees Harry as a person OR he sees Harry as a tool. 
> If he sees Harry as a tool he deserves the worst consequences
> imaginable.  If he sees Harry as a person that that is a whole
> different story.  I would argue, as you do here, that JKR would have
> DD see Harry as a person.  That is not, however, what you implied in
> your previous post.

Whiz: 
If you read the passage again, you will see that Dumbledore's plan
required that he see Harry as a weapon, a tool.  He admits that his
failure, as far as his plan is concerned, was that instead, he saw
Harry as a person, and a child for whom he had great affection.  In
terms of Dumbledore's plan, it looks like he would agree with you, he
can't have it both ways.  But even Dumbledore isn't fully aware of
Harry's potential.  We've seen Harry's love for Sirius save him from
possession by Voldemort.  How Dumbledore's affection for Harry will
prove more important than his plan is something we haven't come to,
yet.  But I'm confident that we will.