Dumbledore the Counselor (was: Dumbledore the General)

[lupinlore]

No: HPFGUIDX 124450



> 
> Whiz: 
> This seems to be your answer to everything.  It is already old.

Only when you write self-contradictory posts.  Break that bad habit
and I'll quit upbraiding you on it.

> 
> lupinlore: 
> Is Dumbledore a heartless manipulator who sees Harry
> > as a weapon or is he someone who loves Harry as a person?  He can't be
> > both.  Either he sees Harry as a person OR he sees Harry as a tool. 
> > If he sees Harry as a tool he deserves the worst consequences
> > imaginable.  If he sees Harry as a person that that is a whole
> > different story.  I would argue, as you do here, that JKR would have
> > DD see Harry as a person.  That is not, however, what you implied in
> > your previous post.
> 
> Whiz: 
> If you read the passage again, you will see that Dumbledore's plan
> required that he see Harry as a weapon, a tool.  He admits that his
> failure, as far as his plan is concerned, was that instead, he saw
> Harry as a person, and a child for whom he had great affection.  In
> terms of Dumbledore's plan, it looks like he would agree with you, he
> can't have it both ways.  But even Dumbledore isn't fully aware of
> Harry's potential.  We've seen Harry's love for Sirius save him from
> possession by Voldemort.  How Dumbledore's affection for Harry will
> prove more important than his plan is something we haven't come to,
> yet.  But I'm confident that we will.

Very good.  State yourself clearly the first time and we could avoid a
lot of the back and forth you seem to find so annoying.

Lupinlore