James, a paragon of virtue? Was: Why Do You Like Sirius?

whizbang whizbang121 at yahoo.com
Sat Feb 12 22:19:02 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 124436


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Magda Grantwich
<mgrantwich at y...> wrote:
 
> > Valky (??? - I assume, as unsigned) 
> > Oh I bet he did tell her that actually. And she curtly replied:
> > "Oh right, James. If that's what it is then you had better bear in 
> > mind that hypocrisy, *I* don't approve of." Followed by a long 
> > exhortation of reasoning why attacking Snape publicly simply wasn't
> > going to serve the said ideology, with a fair slather of honest 
> > reprimand to balance it. 

Whiz:

???  Um... what page was that on?

Valky?:
> > 
> > James did stop humiliating Snape publicly, but the private battle 
> > between them continued, simply because they couldn't stand the
> > sight of each other.

Whiz:  

I think it was much deeper than that, but it does seem that Snape was
the aggressor and James was put in the position of having to retaliate.

Magda:
> 
> I refer to OOTP, Chapter 29, pages 591-592, Cdn. paperback:
> 
> "'Even Snape?' said Harry.
> 
> "Well," said Lupin slowly, "Snape was a special case.  I mean, he
> never lost an opportunity to curse James so you couldn't really
> expect James to take that lying down, could you?"
> 
> "And my mum was OK with that?"
> 
> "She didn't know too much about it, to tell you the truth," said
> Sirius.  "I mean, James didn't take Snape on dates with her and jinx
> him in front of her, did he?'"
> 
> So I would submit that Lily was not aware that James and Snape were
> continuing their relations in the normal manner (to use a
> value-neutral expression).  Why hide it from her if there was
> principled reason for it, if it was an anti-DA activity?
> 
> Answer: because it had nothing to do with Dark or Light or a
> philosophy of life, it had to do with teenage male logic and the
> results that followed from it.
> 
> Magda ( who thought it was  a rule that we signed our posts?)

Whiz: 

Oh right.


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