JKR cheat with the prophecy - Point of Destiny

[doddiemoemoe]

No: HPFGUIDX 124970


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...> 
wrote:
> 
> > 
> > bboyminn:
> > 
> > Before we part ways on this subject, let me take one more stab 
> at it, but from a slightly different angle. You say the future is
> fixed, but I see the future that is Prophesied as being variable 
> and uncertain.



Doddiemoe here:

Prophecies are variable and uncertain...prophecies depend upon the 
decions those involved make...hence voldemort...hence Harry...and 
perhaps Neville(in some worlds)..

But if Harry has vanquished Voldemort before at 18 mos.....then 
perhaps Harry has already done the vanquishing(in his crib at 18 
mos. old..) then who is left to eliminate voldie?

I hate the prophecy because I read it as that the dark lord had 
already been vanquished...(and had he not?))

Prophecy does not equate destiny....nor does the prophecy deem Harry 
obvliviate!

Hence Trelawney can predict alll she wants.....but Firenze will give 
balance..(here is where we will see Ron/Hermione come into play 
again)....If Fireinze thinks/believes that Harry will be the 
savior..then his predictions are outside that of trelawney...

Upon this, we can gather that from the first book, Harry plays a 
more important role...

AND, after book five..we know that DD doesn't know what the centaurs 
know....(I'm quite sure than DD never saw a muggle or wizard ride 
upon the back of a centaur before Haryy had in book one..DD's first 
glimpse through Hagrid in all likelihood)  Please note that DD never 
saw this...just relies upon Hagrid seeing it. 

  Irregardless of what the prophecy means....given the amount of 
years that have gone on...the points of destiny are simply too great.

Doddie


> 
> Pippin:
>  
> I *think* what Lupinlore is saying is that if Harry and Voldemort 
> cannot avoid the intersection of their fates no matter how vaguely 
> this is foretold, then their ability to affect their future by 
their 
> choices is limited.

You are absolutely right...However, we must therefore consider that 
Harry's (or anyone in his camp) All have fates of their own which 
leads to greater and more prolific intersections.....

The only thing we can be sure of is that at the very least...the 
prophecy is simply an "outline"...