JKR cheat with the prophecy - Point of Destiny
Steve
bboyminn at yahoo.com
Tue Feb 22 09:29:04 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 124985
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...> wrote:
>
> >
> > bboyminn:
> >
> > Before we part ways on this subject, let me take one more stab
> at it, but from a slightly different angle. You say the future is
> fixed, but I see the future that is Prophesied as being variable
> and uncertain.
> Pippin:
>
> I *think* what Lupinlore is saying is that if Harry and Voldemort
> cannot avoid the intersection of their fates no matter how vaguely
> this is foretold, then their ability to affect their future by their
> choices is limited. ...edited...
>
> ...edited...
>
> Pippin
bboyminn:
One of the points I tried to make with my 'Freezing Rain Tommorrow'
Prophecy illustration was that /normal/ life always limits our
choices, and thereby limits our ability to affect the future. 'Rain
tomorrow' forces choices on me. As does countless other aspects of
daily life; car, job, money, school, home, parents, marriage, kids,
weather, geography, health, talent, intelligence, luck, etc, etc,
etc.... Even to the point where we can say that fate/life/whatever
literally forced us to make certain decisions.
The questions is, how far beyond the way in which life's choices are
commonly and normally resticted does this specific prophecy take Harry
and/or Dumbledore?
Beyond but not far beyond, I am inclined to think. They have a destiny
that they can not escape. Choices are limited by that destiny, just as
so many other aspects of life limit our choices. But I still feel
strongly that they have not lost freewill. Destiny is not dictating
every critical choice they make along the way. They still control how
destiny will play out.
In the simplest terms, they can't affect what, but they can affect how.
Steve/bboyminn
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