JKR cheat with the prophecy - Point of Destiny

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 124982






--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "kempermentor"
<kempermentor at y...> wrote:
> 
> Lupinlore wrote:
>  
> Suppose you entered a room and saw a large curtain closing off the
> back half.  One of your friends goes up and sticks his head through
> the curtain.  He yells "There's a Doberman Pinscher in a tutu back 
> here!"
>  
> At that moment he has made an observation, i.e. a statement about
> the factual and existing state of affairs in the universe.  


 
> Kemper now:
> This kind of reminds me of Schrodinger's Cat.  Schrodinger's Cat is 
> way of describing a principle of quantum theory, Superposition.
> 
> But let's use Filch's Cat for the example.  You place the living
> Mrs. Norris into a thick lead box.  At this point you know that Mrs. 
> Norris is, unfortunately, alive, but... milliseconds before you slam 
> the lid down on the box, you quickly throw a glass-vial of cyanide
> in the box.  Now, you don't know if the vial has broken or not, so 
> you don't know if Mrs. Norris is alive or dead. Quantum Law says 
> that  Mrs. Norris is both alive and dead--she is in a superposition 
> of states. 
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> ...edited...
> 
> Again, both of these possibilities exist simultaneously UNTIL we
> open the box and OBSERVE which is true.  In that observation, we
> find out  what the Dark Lord's choice, free and clear, was.
> 
> Kemper,
> who is feeling pretty bad ass about this post and who is eagerly 
> waiting how Lupinlore, Steve or others(quantum physicists who will 
> tear my post to shreads) might respond

bboyminn:

Kemper; no argument from me. I think you very clearly illustrated how
the future is not fixed until it becomes the past.

My quarrel with Lupinlore is about detail. My impression is that
Lupinlore seems to think that The Prophecy very clearly and precisely
defines the future, and that it is impossible to escape that level of
detail.

But I simply don't see the detail. The Prophecy is not very precise,
it doesn't mention specific dates, it doesn't mention specific people,
it doesn't clearly define specific events, it doesn't mention the
specific actions of any of the unmentioned but involved people. 

All we really know, which we reached from assumptions and
interpretations, is that Harry and the Dark Lord have a shared
destiny. They have been thrown in a box that represents their shared
destiny, the actions of each party are indeterminate, the result in
indeterminate; all options, all choices are open until they are made,
and the final outcome will be based on the choices made inside that box.

They can't escape the fact that they have been thrown into the box;
that is their Prophecy defined destiny, but the can choose what they
do in the box, and those choices determine the outcome.

That's all I'm trying to say. 

Steve/bboyminn