Mother Molly (was: Some OOTP Questions)

[phoenixgod2000]

No: HPFGUIDX 125103



> 
> Alla:
> 
> I don't agree with Red Hen's article either for the most part of 
it. 
> I mean, I would be the last one to call Molly a "perfect mother". 
> She is far from it, IMO, but no way I would call her a toxic 
mother, 
> either.

Sorry Alla, I have to disagree with you. I would even go further 
than a Toxic Mother. I think Molly is flat out Toxic to just 
everyone. Practically the only arguements that happened in the Order 
scenes other than Snape/Sirius were caused by or inflated by Molly.

Her reaction to Sirius at the begining of the novel was one of the 
most reprehensible in the book.  She accusssed a man who had been 
wrongly tortured for *twelve Years* of not wanting what's best for 
Harry.  The guy who broke out of an unbreakable prison just so he 
could save his godson, but she apparently doesn't think that's good 
enough. Disgusting. Everyone drags out the sorry old song about her 
speaking too harshly just because she loves Harry and so we all 
should forgive her. Sorry, I don't buy it.  There are things you 
don't say and and things you can't take back once they are. 

Plus she treats Arthur like absolute crap and that I cannot abide. 
  
> Sure, some parts of Molly's parenting REALLY gets to me. Strangely 
> enough, "robes scene" is probably one that gets to me the most.

The robe scene bothers me too, but its just an example of what 
really bothers me about her parenting in general
 
> But I only have to remember Molly's boggart scene and I can 
forgive 
> her many things. I see a mother who loves ALL her children  and 
who 
> is terrifying of losing ALL her children in war.

She absolutely loves her kids, I don't think that anyone would ever 
seriously argue otherwise, but as a teacher who has to deal with 
pushy parents every single day, loving your kids doesn't mean you're 
doing whats right for them.  I know plenty of parents who coddle 
their children, refuse to punish them for anything, punish them for 
everything, give them nothing, give them everything, believe that 
the only dreams they should have are the ones the parents give them, 
and so on ad infinitem.  Molly may love her kids but her love isn't 
doing them any good. She does not get a pass on her attitude from me 
just because she loves her kids.  That does not excuse either her 
actions or her talk, IMO.
 
> Alla, whose favourite Weasleys ARE twins and Ginny.

I hate to disagree with you Alla, but I'll figure out some way to 
get you off the Ginny love train :)

phoenixgod2000, who just got off a week of parent/teacher 
confrences, which has probably affected his judgement and magnified 
the Molly hate