Hagrid IS a good teacher!! WAS Re: Hagrid and Snape: Nice people get a pass

[M.Clifford]

No: HPFGUIDX 125125


>  --- Valky wrote: 
> 
> > Follow my instructions carefully was said by both
> > teachers, this can 
> > be dangerous if you don't was also said by both
> > teachers, the 
> > correct method for success was carefully spelled out
> > by both 
> > teachers. The point I make about difference is that
> > Hagrid handled 
> > the situation responsibly in his example as an adult
> > who knows what 
> > he's doing he controlled Buckbeak and he was
> > concerned for the well 
> > being of the child. Snape tends more to abuse his
> > position in that 
> > regard, he diminishes the situation, which is not so
> > bad I guess, 
> > but then he shows no responsible concern for the
> > wellbeing of the 
> > child. Hence why I say that the children do not feel
> > protected. 
> 

Irene replied:
> I'm afraid I can't agree. Snape acts at all times
> during the potions lessons as an adult that knows what
> he is doing. Whenever the situation requires medical
> treatment, he either does it himself, or dispatches
> the student to the hospital wing.
> What do you mean by the wellbeing, by the way? If it's
> the physical, medical thing, then I think they are
> fully protected and Snape demonstrates as responsible
> a concern as can be wished from any potions teacher.


Valky:
Definitely I agree, and it is in no uncertain way, the reason that 
Dumbledore entrusts the position to him, IMHO. Snape is a clinically 
perfect instructor in that regard. No mess no fuss.


> Irene
> But if you mean it in the emotional sense then yeah,
> no concern whatsoever for the poor wee children. 
>

Valky:
Yes, well I do and I don't. In respect to hagrid and Snape this is 
where Hagrid has it over Snape. Hagrids blasted annoying sometimes 
but as an adult he offers a sense of confidence in his presence, it 
might not be taken well yet, but it's only his third year as a 
teacher whereas Snape has far more experience, IMO Hagrid is the one 
going in the right direction here. 
The children are going to make mistakes with either method, the 
better teacher, (just IMHO) is the one who can nurture the childs 
ability to face the consequences of their mistakes but still feel 
confident that they will only be expected to do as much as they can 
physically, mentally and emotionally handle themselves at each 
stage. That is as Hagrid's teaching is developing. He allows himself 
to be aware of the childs sense of well being and does take on 
himself a responsibility to that well being. Snape insists he won't 
take responsibility for the well being and as such uses a forceful 
rather than nurturing method. As far as teaching goes, there is a 
greater success weighing to those who have a well developed sense of 
consideration for the child, it needs to be balanced but that takes 
time.