Gryffindor's dark side

finwitch finwitch at yahoo.com
Fri Feb 25 22:29:02 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 125197


> 
> Phoenixgod2000 responded:
> >
> > Actually, in all of the books Harry searches desperately for
> someone
> > else to take the responsibility but in every one of them the
> adults
> > are either not present or they let him down in some way. He never
> > goes looking for trouble.
> 
> >Charlotte:
> 
> >How can you say Harry never goes looking for trouble after the 
whole
> >debacle at the end of OotP? If it weren't for Hermione's cautioning
> >he would have headed there straight away without reference to 
anyone.
> 
> Marissa:
> 
> It's easy to say this after the debacle in OoTP. For four years, 
> everytime Harry was presented with a problem and out something evil 
> was underway, whenever he went to look for an adult they didn't 
> believe him or weren't around. He always ended up at the end by 
> himself having to figure it out alone. So after four years of this, 
> why WOULDN'T he expect to have to head there straight away without 
> reference to anyone? He's learned from past experiences that if he 
> doesn't act quickly Voldemort will get what he wants. In PS, 
> Voldemort would've had the Philosopher's Stone, in the Chamber of 
> Secrets Ginny would have died, in Prisoner of Azkaban without 
> conjuring that Patronus Sirius would've had the dementor's kiss, 
and 
> in the Goblet of Fire he would've been dead if he sat around 
> twiddling his thumbs, waiting for an adult to come along and help 
> him.  PhoenixGod2000 is completely right.

Finwitch:

And I'd like to add few things:
1) Dumbledore had been acting oddly all year and AVOIDING Harry. 
(Don't forget Polyjuice and Metamorphmagi, and Imperius -- and of 
course, there COULD be some other sort of controlling-spells.)
2) Then, Harry sees one of his visions which happens to save a life. 
While Arthur Weasley & co. thank him for it... 
3) Next thing Harry hears, is Snape (whom Harry definately does not 
trust) telling Harry that Dumbledore (who's nowhere) has these 
instructions... while Sirius (whom Harry definately trusts) objects 
to the whole thing -- barely agreeing.
4) Let's not forget the disrecard etc. going on.
5) Troughout the year, Harry's being punished for telling the truth; 
he's being brave and honourable in doing so; - and all McGonagall 
does is - punish him MORE.
6) Just about all means of communication are monitored by 
untrustworthy people, OWLs intercepted etc...
7) As for Hermione: She was about to disregard her *own* idea just 
because Sirius supported it (an idea that was the only thing about 
Hogwarts Harry liked that year and kept him sane - probably even kept 
him from commiting suicide); As the vision comes, she speaks of 
saving lives like it was a bad thing... 

I'm saying that- all things concidered, Harry WAS doing the right 
thing. Reference? To whom? Sorry my dears, but under the 
circumstances, Harry is out of contact to anyone he COULD safely 
defer to. (Don't forget, Snape *does* bear the Dark Mark... and it's 
entirely possible that Snape's got something over Dumbledore -- 
putting some potion into a Lemon Drop that makes him go 'I trust 
Severus Snape' every time something anti-Snape comes up...)

I'd say Harry DID show reference, to Sirius' earlier reaction to the 
Occlumency lessons - but er-- Sirius was the one Harry visioned as 
*tortured* and Harry didn't manage to contact him... Oh well, I 
suppose Harry *could* have asked Trelawney (oh, you had a vision! Of 
course it's true... and poor Sirius...) or Firenze (who probably 
wouldn't know either way).


Finwitch







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