Molly and Arthur Was Re: Mother Molly /Nice people get a pass
horridporrid03
horridporrid03 at yahoo.com
Sat Feb 26 23:31:04 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 125258
>>Betsy:
>The way she treats Arthur is atrocious...<
>>Alla:
<snip>
>Sure, I immensely dislike Molly's attempts to "handle' Arthur or
lecture him, BUT I think that Arthur really does not care and hides
from Molly the stuff, which is not really important on the grand
scheme of things... <snip> ...and when it comes to important stuff
Arthur is very capable of standing his ground.
<snip of good canon>
>So, when it comes to what Arthur believes is needed to be done, he
is pretty persuasive, even though they are having a heated argument.
<snip of more good canon>
>It seems to me that in the important matters Molly and Arthur ARE
equal partners, even though from the first sight it may seems that
the exact opposite is true.
<snip of even more good canon>
>So, in short I do think that Molly respects Arthur, although we
should look carefully to notice it. :o)<
Betsy:
Really good post, Alla. :) And I agree that Arthur isn't completely
trampled by Molly. Otherwise I think he'd give up on his Muggle
things, and I also think the Weasley kids would be a *little* bit
less open-minded when it came to Muggle-borns. I just really detest
that Molly scolds Arthur like he's one of her children, in front of
the children (and a house guest, no less). It's highly
*dis*respectful behavior, IMO.
Though I also think the reason Molly is such a scold, and seems to be
under so much stress it that Arthur has taken a bit of a pass on
being a father towards the younger generation of Weasleys. He really
should have said something to the twins about their treatment of
Percy, but I think he was so busy in his shed, mucking about with his
Muggle things, he misses how badly behaved his children can be. And
to my mind, that means Arthur is *not* taking a stand on some
important things. (Not that he's *completely* out of the picture -
just not as present as he should be, IMO.)
Maybe he started to give up because Molly wore him down, or maybe
Molly's become such a shrew because Arthur has given up. (It's a bit
chicken and egg with that one. <g>) But, though I'm not sure we're
going to see a massive Weasley family explosion in the next few
books, there is definitely some problems in the Weasley household.
>>Alla:
>Jane Austeen is one JKR's favourite writers, no? I think Molly's
negative qualities to some extent are similar to bad qualities of
mothers in Jane Austeen novelas.<
Betsy:
Ah, but Jane Austen was all about unhealthy family relationships.
They were her bread and butter, as it were. And some of Austen's
mothers were downright villainous. But I don't think JKR is taking
Molly *that* far. I'm not prepared to say that Molly will turn evil,
or that she'll somehow damage the Order's work. I'm leaning towards
JKR creating Molly and Arthur with such flaws because she didn't want
to have a "perfect" family in her books. It adds a nice nuance to
the story, and gives us some interesting peeks into the WW, IMO.
Betsy
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