Marietta and Hermione (was JKR's Messages ) (was Re: Hermione In Trouble?)
delwynmarch
delwynmarch at yahoo.com
Sat Jan 1 17:27:59 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 120930
Eggplant wrote:
"You may be able to explain exactly why a person becomes a monster,
but that doesn't make them one bit less of a monster. If a man is
chasing me with a bloody ax I really don't care what his motivation
is, beautiful thoughts may be going on in his head for all I know, I
don't care, I just want him to stop. "
Del replies:
Let me use examples of why such a simple reasoning can be deeply flawed.
Let's say you see Man A chasing Man B with a bloody axe. If I
understand you well, you will automatically classify Man A as an evil
monster, right? Will it make any difference to you to learn that Man B
just raped and killed Man A's wife and kids, and that it is the blood
of that family which is on the axe?
On a more day-to-day level : your little daughter comes to my door and
asks me if my son can come out to play with her. I tell her no, that
my son is not authorised to go out today. Are you automatically going
to qualify me as a child abuser, or are you going to wonder if I'm not
rightfully punishing my kid for something he did ?
Del, then Eggplant:
"If you can't see the distinction between "I like what's right and
dislike what's wrong", and "What I like is right and what I dislike is
wrong", that's scary."
"This must be the first time in human history when saying I like to do
good stuff and don't like to do bad stuff has scared someone. You must
scare real easy."
Del replies:
It gets better all the time!
Honestly, English is not my first language, but even I know the
difference between "I like what's right" and "what I like is right".
And I also know that good isn't necessarily a synonym for right, nor
bad for wrong.
Del, then Eggplant:
"does the wizarding community know who are the fighters on either side?"
"If they don't they certainly should."
Del replies:
Based on what?
Both the Order and the DEs are *secret* organisations, which by
definition means that their very existence, along with the identity of
their members, are NOT known of the general public, and are not
supposed to be. So why "should" the general public know about them?
How *could* they?
Eggplant wrote:
"Harry doesn't need to read reports to know a war is going on, he
experienced it first hand."
Del replies:
Yes, but he is the only one. Nobody else has reported seeing even the
smallest bit of Reborn!LV. One person reporting unsupported events can
hardly be called "reportS". The war in Iraq, for example, wasn't
started because one single teenage Iraqi said that there was a tyrant
in Iraq. It was started after this tyrant and his actions were
well-documented by a large number of people.
Eggplant wrote:
"Seeing Voldemort in the flesh and being tied to a tombstone and
tortured so horribly he wanted to die has convinced Harry that there
is a war going on. It would convince me too."
Del replies:
Yes, but would a single teenager living on the other side of the
country reporting having seen Hitler reborn and some of his new Nazi
leaders, convince you that Reborn!Hitler is about to start WWIII?
Del
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