Marietta and the DA

cubfanbudwoman susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net
Fri Jan 7 12:42:12 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 121359


Kethryn:
> > > If it were me, I would do exactly the same thing as Hermione in
> > > this case. It would be useless to tell people that something 
> > > bad would happen if they signed the form and then blabbed; 
> > > those people that would be inclined to blab would somehow find 
> > > a way not to sign the form.  

SSSusan:
> > Wouldn't it make MORE sense to tell them something bad would 
> > happen if they signed & then told, to *let* those people "find a 
> > way not to sign"??  That way you've got no one in the group who 
> > might betray you later, no one in the group you're allowing to 
> > continue to come to meetings and gather intel on you.  AND if 
> > they walked without signing, you'd know who to be watching!  
> > You'd know there were people who didn't think this was such a 
> > good idea, so you'd better be careful how much detail you let 
> > out.
> >
> > In short, letting them go without signing would equal damage 
> > control in my book.


Kethryn again -
> But that would require a heck of a lot of effort, especially in 
> Marietta's case in particular, where she is not in Gryffindor.  I 
> mean, let's face it, none of the trio really trust anyone outside 
> of their own house (and I am assuming the reverse is true 
> also...none of the other students in any other house wouldn't 
> necessarily trust those in Gryffindor for example) and it would be 
> a heck of a lot of work to track someone not in your own 
> house...the students aren't allowed to move that freely and I 
> wouldn't trust it to anyone not in my house.
> 
> And Marietta could have walked before signing the paper...like I 
> said, no one held a gun to her head.


SSSusan:
I'm not sure I follow why this would have required a lot of work, 
tracking people down?  I wasn't talking about investigating people 
in advance.  I *was* suggesting that Hermione might've told people 
who asked that, no, they really didn't want anyone Harry didn't know 
well involved just yet.  

But in the original bit I wrote, above, I was talking only about 
that moment at the HH when Hermione produced the parchment and told 
people she thought they should sign.  What I'm suggesting about this 
moment is that, rather than strongly encouraging everyone to sign, I 
think it would have made much more sense to have *strongly* 
encouraged anyone who had reservations to LEAVE THEN.  It didn't 
have to sound hateful, only as if it was a serious commitment and 
those with doubts would be better off just moving on.

You said it yourself that the trio really didn't trust anyone 
outside their house/inner circle very much.  I think it's a *good* 
thing that they didn't limit the DA to just Gryffindors.  H/R/H and 
others they knew very well -- F/G, Ginny, Neville -- *had* gotten to 
know some students from other houses by taking classes with them, 
playing Quidditch against them, from being Prefects with them, or 
dating, etc.  But the ones Harry didn't know at all?  Why pressure 
them to TO sign if you don't want people around who aren't sure of 
you or you of them?  Common sense would tell you to watch them more 
closely for signs of discomfort or uncertainty, simply because 
they're unknowns.

Siriusly Snapey Susan








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