[HPforGrownups] Potterverse Destiny (was Re: C. S. Lewis and Potterverse Destiny)

[stephen roginson]

No: HPFGUIDX 121420



Vivamus <Vivamus at TaprootTech.com> wrote:

I agree with JKR on "fate".  

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For someone not a Christian, I guess the concept would be that of a
conscious setting forth of the future as it now stands by a deity, for the
purpose of helping that future to come about -- but the humans involved
still have to create that future themselves.


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In the "confession" scene of
OOtP, he still does not tell Harry this, because it would again be interfering with his destiny.  Harry is going ahead as he should, as he must, and DD, with a heart full of love for Harry, watches in immense pain as Harry goes through these struggles.  He only interferes as much as he would normally do in the course of things, and often less (as when he sees the kids under the cloak in Hagrid's hut.)

Harry often wonders why DD doesn't help him more.  I think we'll see DD do that much more in the next book, as Harry becomes more set on his path.
Before that happens, though, I think Harry is going to step away from his destiny in HBP.  His grief, guilt, pain, etc., are going to get the best of him, and he will turn aside altogether.  That is when we will see DD step in as an active friend and counselor to Harry, as he has not been up to this
point.  As long as Harry stays on point, DD must keep hands off, to keep from interfering with Harry's destiny.  When Harry turns aside, DD will be free to act more directly, because there is, in effect, nothing to lose.


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I love this discussion.  Sorry to leave so much text, but snipping what I did was hard enough. I'm still pretty brand new, but I have to give it a stab.

I have often thought of the DD/Harry relationship in context of a Kung Fu/Martial Arts Master and Student.  The teacher providing a context and subtle clues for the student to find the 'way' or path. Asking questions...

In this particular post, however, I couldn't help but draw a parallel to the discussion between Krishna and Arjuna (I think) in the Bagahavad Gita, from an ancient Hindi text called The Mahabparta (probably butchered the spellings).  The discussion concerns 'dharma' or fate/destiny.  Purpose on earth.  Your path.  Krishna guides Arjuna beyond choice to help him discover and understand his dharma.  

I think the conversation between DD and Harry at the end of OotP would have been a great place to discuss 'fate' and 'prophecies'.  I expect that we will see this soon.

SR