Satellite!Harry
snow15145
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Tue Jan 11 07:21:22 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 121651
Carol responds:
Interesting theory (I wouldn't call it an accusation, since you're not
accusing anybody of anything). But there's a simpler explanation.
Maybe Baby Harry received some but not all of Voldemort's powers (the
only one he's displayed so far is Parseltongue) and Voldemort didn't
lose his powers per se but only the ability to use them.
Snow:
Thank you for your response, Carol, but how would you account for
Voldemort's quote that "only one power remained to me. I could
possess the bodies of others." Is this just the uttering of a former
vapor-self who was unable to use his abilities
if so why is Voldemort
capable of using a power (parceltongue) which we know has been
permanently transferred to Harry? If Harry is in possession of the
ability, transferred to him through Voldemort, to speak parceltongue,
how can baby!Voldy or any form of Voldemort speak parceltongue when
it is no longer in his possession, unless he has access to it?
Carol:
Without his body, he couldn't use a wand or even speak. Later, he was
able to use his powers through Quirrell (I doubt that Quirrell could
have broken into Gringotts using his own powers), and even as Baby!
mort, he could use a wand.
Snow:
Good point, however, Harry's scar was responding to Voldemort and his
endeavors to use magic `himself', not through someone else. The scar
would not have been the intensely sensitive conductor it is, at the
beginning. At the beginning, it was only when Harry was physically
close in proximity to Vapormort that induced any pain, and then it
was referred to as just a `hurt'.
Voldemort's powers are very much alive in Harry and accessible
through Harry even when he was Vapormort but Harry's scar response to
the use of the powers Voldemort is accessing only grew with
Voldemort's physical formation. It was only when Voldy became Baby!
mort (a real physical substance) that Harry was capable of actually
viewing Voldemort's schemes through his accessed powers, which
intensified Harry's scar pain.
Carol:
Now that Voldie has his own body magically restored to him, he can
use Legilimency, and presumably, he uses Parseltongue to speak to
Nagini. There's no question that he can use the Unforgiveable Curses,
a power that Harry so far lacks and hopefully will never fully
develop.
Snow:
The worst properties of the powers that Harry has unknowingly
acquired from Voldemort is exactly what makes Harry's statement at
the end of OOP so utterly ironic:
"But I don't!" said Harry in a strangled voice. "I haven't any powers
he hasn't got. I couldn't fight the way he did tonight, I can't
possess peopleor kill them"
Harry has never acquired the power to possess people; this statement
came from Voldy himself; so Harry defiantly is correct that he does
not have the power to possess people. The next statement is that he
can't kill people, which is also correct via the information from
Bella at the MOM:
"Never used an Unforgivable Curse before, have you, boy!" [
] "You
need to mean them, Potter! You need to really want to cause painto
enjoy itrighteous anger wont hurt me for long
"
Why can Harry not use an unforgivable curse
because, like Dumbledore,
he is too noble to use them or to understand that he has the power to
use them via the Voldemort legacy unknowingly bestowed on him.
The examples that Harry gave as to why he can't fight like Voldemort
are the only ones that actually give a reason why Harry can't fight
like Voldemort.
Snowwho occasionally wishes this were a chat room instead of an
adult forum
No offence to you Carol
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