Ahha!! I've got it... Time-turner not a quick fix

[Andrew]

No: HPFGUIDX 122031


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "vmonte" <vmonte at y...> wrote:
> 
> I (Vivian) wrote:
> 
> I agree with you. I've been saying this for quite a while now.
> By the way people really hate time turner theories on this site.
> 
> Nicky Joe Responded:
> I hate the idea of the time turner in general. Why not use it to go
> back and save Sirius? Why was it okay to use it to save him from 
the
> Dementors but not okay to use it to save him from falling through 
the
> veil? If I were Harry, I'd be demanding the thing. I'd probably
> even steal it to try and save Sirius. *Terrible things happen to
> wizards that meddle with time*. Well, nothing happened to them when
> they meddled with it last time. Does Dumbledore have the power to
> know when using the time turner is a good idea and when it's a bad
> idea? If so, he's bloody more powerful than we ever suspected. It
> worked great to further the plot and wrap things up nicely in PoA,
> but I wish they would have smashed it to smithereens after that in
> order that it never be used again.
> 
> vmonte again:
> 
> I think the reason why Dumbledore says: "Terrible things happen to
> wizards that meddle with time" because terrible things have 
happened.
> DD is not completely all knowing, and he doesn't have the power to 
> predict when using a time-turner is always going to work. We have 
> only been told about the TT in one case, and it just happens to be 
on 
> a time it did work. We don't know if it has been used previously--
but 
> IMO it must have.
> 
> It was rather easily given to Hermione wasn't it? And do you really
> think it was for school? IMO DD/MM must have known that she was 
going
> to need it later on. Since SS/PS the children have been receiving 
the
> training necessary to accomplish certain goals (SSSusan and I have 
> discussed this here previously). Are they being trained for 
something 
> in the future? Yes, I believe so.
> 
> I don't like TT stories either; I've always hated them, except for
> how JKR has used it. IMO the next time we actually see (read about)
> a TT being used it will not work out favorably.
> 
> What do you suppose Harry or Hermione would do if Ron's parents 
were
> killed in book 6? How about if Fred and George got one? It has 
been 
> previously discussed, on this site, that perhaps Fred and George 
are 
> already in possession of a TT. One poster even suggested that F&G 
> used a TT to find out what was going to happen at the Quidditch 
> National in GoF. Remember the bet?
> 
> I think that someone, with no experience using a TT, is going to 
use
> one causing catastrophic consequences.
> 
> DD on the other hand, obviously has more experience using one, and
> would know its dangers. (I still think though, that he has made
> mistakes while using it. We just aren't privy to that information
> yet.)
> 
> BTW a TT will not be used to save Lily or James. IMO, I think that
> L&J made a choice to die to save their son Harry. I think they 
> believed that the only way Harry would survive would be if they
> sacrificed their lives. What if they let Wormtail be the keeper on 
> purpose? 
> 
> It's interesting that with all that DD knows he has no idea of 
what 
> exactly happened at GH. I think that James and Lily were running 
the 
> show that night.
> 
> Vivian

Harry can not go back in time and save Sirius because Sirius IS 
dead. If Harry were to go back and save him, we would have seen the 
affects of it. Unless Harry is somehow hiding to catch Sirius before 
he falls into the veil, and hide him from his past self, it is 
impossible for Harry to go back and save Sirius. 

A-Mac