All about Lupin

[Renee]

No: HPFGUIDX 122314


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...> 
wrote:
> 
>  
> > Pippin writes:
> > 
> > >You did notice, perhaps, that Lupin didn't actually teach Harry 
> to produce a corporeal patronus? He stopped the lessons while 
> Harry was still only able to produce a silver vapor -- not enough 
> to drive a dementor away.
> > 
<snip>

Pippin: 
>  As Harry points out in OOP, being able to produce a patronus 
> when you are not threatened  is quite different from being able to 
> do it when there is a dementor around. But the lessons must 
> have stopped after the Quidditch match, or Harry would have 
> known what form his patronus took.

Renee:
True enough (we know Harry didn't look at his Patronus during the 
Quidditch match), but that wasn't the original point. You said Lupin 
never taught Harry to produce a corporeal Patronus. As Harry does 
produce a corporeal Patronus during the match, Lupin apparently did 
teach him to produce one/helped him reach the point where he could 
produce one. Which makes your assumption incorrect. It would explain 
why the lessons ceased - if they did, something we still don't know 
for sure. We're not explicitly told they ceased, as is the case with 
the Occlumency lessons. 
 
 
> Arynn: 
> > A note on the Evil!Lupin theories:
> > This is also significant in that Dumbledore is telling Harry 
> about how Remus has told him everything. I'm sure that that 
> conversation involved quite a few apologies. So it would seem 
> Lupin did "fess up" to his lies. 
> 
> Pippin:
> Dumbledore learned about Prongs from Sirius, I'm afraid. "Last  
> night Sirius told meall about how they became Animagi." -PoA ch 
> 22  
 
Renee:
That only strengthens the case for Lupin's confession to DD. After 
Sirius told him all about the Animagi transformations, DD knew what 
went on right under his nose, back in the Marauders' days. So, if 
Lupin had kept this information from him, DD would definitely *not* 
have said to Harry that Remus told him everything. What's more, 
there would be no point in using the word "everything", because DD 
wouldn't know what there was to tell. Ergo, Lupin did "fess up". 
By the way, since when is it impossible for two different people to 
tell a third party the same thing independently of each other?