All about Lupin

festuco vuurdame at xs4all.nl
Wed Jan 19 21:05:21 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 122438



--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Renee" <R.Vink2 at c...> wrote:

> This refers to Pippin's theory that it wasn't Peter Pettigrew who 
> was the spy that betrayed the Potters in the first Voldemort war, 
> but Lupin (using the codename Wormtail), who joined Voldemort 
> because of the way the Wizarding World treats werewolves. But as 
> Pippin has a tendency to treat her own speculations as canon 
> evidence in discussions (especially where Lupin and Snape are 
> concerned), this can be confusing to those unaware of the ESE!Lupin 
> theory. 
>
OK, this is an old one, but I've just reread the end of PoA and I see
not one little bit of evidence for this theory. I am really trying to
understand why you, Pippin, cling to it that much. Rowling loves red
herrings, true, but there is always evidence for the truth as well.
Solid evidence as soon as you know what you are looking for. Nothing
vague or insubstantial. I've read your evidence and I just cannot find
anything substantial there. Here's why I think its nonsense 

Let's see: Black gets the newspaper with Ron's and Scabber's picture,
resulting in he's at Hogwarts. He's actively after Peter as we know
from the dormitory scene where he threathens Ron with a knife. 

Then in the Shrieking Shack: 

'Harry... I as good as killed them, he croaked.'
 'I persuaded Lily and James to change to Peter at the last moment,
persuaded them to use him as  Secret-Keeper instead of me...
(Bloomsbury hardcover p. 268)

next page: 
'Remus, gasped Pettigrew, and Harry could see beads of sweat breaking
out over his pasty face, 'you don't believe him, do you... He tried te
kill me, Remus..

(...)
'He's cme to try and kill me again! 'Pettigrew shrieked suddenly
pointing at Black, an dHarry saw that he used his middle finger,
because his index was missing. 'He killed Lily and James, and now hi's
going to kill me, too... You've got to help me, Remus...'

Next page:

'You haven't beeen hiding from me, for twelve years,' said Black.
'Youve been hiding from Voldemort's old supporters. I heard things in
Azkaban, Peter... they al think you're dead, or you'd have to anser to
them... I've heard them screaming all sorts of things in their sleep.
Sounds like they think the double-crosser doucle-crossed them.
Voldemort went tot het Potters' on your information... and Voldemort
met his downfall there. 

To make ESE!Lupin possible you have to have two traitors. Peter does
not deny he was the Secret Keeper, and therefore the only one who
could betray the Potters. He nowhere, nowhere says anything that
points to Lupin, though he has the opportunity. 

So, you expect us to believe, that Peter, coward that he is, kept the
fact that he was not te secret keeper for himself? Why would he have
done such a thing? 

Gerry










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