Favorite Snape Scenes - He's such a lovely professor, no really.
dumbledore11214
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Fri Jan 21 03:13:57 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 122562
Alla earlier:
Not everyone agrees with the fact that Snape is a horrible guy.
Otherwise our Snape bashing and Snape defending sessions would have
died out pretty fast. :o)
And even if I forget my doubts whether Snape now really thinks that
murdering people is a bad thing, I would still think that those who
abuse children for their pleasure are not "moral" people.
Carol responds:
Yes, I'm one of those people who doesn't think that Snape is
"horrible"--just strict, sarcastic, and occasionally unfair.
Alla:
I know. :o)
Carol:
Definitely not "nice," but until and unless he betrays Harry, DD, or
the Order, I will never concede that he's evil.
Alla:
So, is the bet on or not? I maintain that Snape's emotions against
having which he so hypocritically ranted at Harry, will lead him to
if not betrayal of the Order, then at least putting Harry in a VERY
dangerous situation.
I am speculating of course, but somehow it fits in my mind.
Carol:
His goals are to get Harry to obey the
rules, stay out of danger, follow directions, and show respect.
Alla:
We REALLY don't know what Snape's goals are yet, unfortunately he
keeps them to himself in that head of his. Oh, what would I give to
use Legilimency spell on Snape. :o)
Carol:
But what I'm interested in here is not defending Snape for the
thousandth time but the idea that a person must be *nice* in order to
be *good*. Harry, our hero, whom we all agree is good, is very often
not nice, especially in OoP. He's rude and even cruel to Ron and
Hermione, his best friends. He's definitely not nice to Seamus when
Seamus wants to know what happened to Cedric. And he certainly
doesn't turn the other cheek to Dudley; he bullies him in return. I
can go quote hunting if you like to show mean!Harry. On those
occasions, has he become temporarily evil?
Alla:
Ummm, yeas... it makes Harry's actions to be not the actions of the
good person, IMO. Not EVIL yet, definitely, but NOT good either.
I should specify though that I am conceding this assumption ONLY for
Harry's actions towards Ron and Hermione. Definitely not for Dudley.
For fifteen years Harry suffered from Dudley's actions. Dudley got
what he deserved and actually MORE than he deserved, IMO.
Sure, Harry bullied him a little, but as soon as danger came , he
saved Dudley. I would say that Harry was very " nice" to him when
push came to shove.
The difference between Harry and Snape, IMO, is that Harry is sorry
for those actions and Harry is fifteen, he has time to get it right.
Hey, I will offer you another bet - we will see significantly less
of "emotionally unbalanced" Harry in HBP AND Snape will be the
absolute SAME
Carol:
Umbridge and Crouch!Moody are both "nicer"than Snape. Does that make
them good? Or are meanness and evil two
different things?
Alla:
I thought I said in the earlier post I am NOT talking about
fake "niceness", only about genuine one.
Just my opinion,
Alla
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