Imperius Resistance and Occlumency, was Harry's anger (was Re: Draco's anger.)

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"Amanda Geist" wrote:

> It is not incumbent upon Dumbledore to 
> obtain Harry's approval, or to ensure
> Harry's understanding. 

It is incumbent of Dumbledore to explain some things to Harry if he
expects Harry's enthusiastic cooperation, especially when his
instincts are telling him there is something very wrong with those
lessons. Harry's instincts have saved his life before (grab hold of
Quirrell's face, stab the book with the fang, force the beads of light
away from your wand, etc). Harry will not and should not ignore his
gut feeling just because somebody he is fast loosing respect for says,
do it because I say so.

> Dumbledore and most of the adults he is in contact
> with are involved in a huge struggle for the safety
> of the wizarding world. He makes himself an 
> obstruction [
] This reminds me of my children. 
> If I tell my daughter to do X, many times she will
> not do X. Instead, she will do something else that
> she thinks will acccomplish the *reason* I wanted 
> her to do X, without her having to do X at all. 
> Problem is, her understanding is limited and she 
> is often wrong about what my reasons were.

Dumbledore is not dealing with a toddler, or some silly little twerp
of a kid who just fell off a turnip truck; he may still be a boy but
nobody on the planet has more experience in these matters than Harry
has, and that includes Dumbledore. By my count Harry has saved the
entire Wizarding world at least 3 times, he rescued an innocent man
from execution, he has received all three unforgivable curses and
triumphed over them all and engaged in magical are wrestling with He
Who Must Not Be Named himself, the most powerful Dark wizard in a
thousand years and Harry won. If from time to time some of these
thoughts enter Harry's consciousness it is not arrogance it is just
cold hard reality and explains his fury when he is patted on the head
and told, just do what I say little boy. After all he's done and
suffered for the Wizarding World Harry thinks he deserves some respect
and I think he's right. 

> I maintain that even if Voldemort knows Snape 
> is a traitor, he is keeping that knowledge to
> himself and Snape is still spying, having given
> Voldemort a reason that appeared to be accepted. 

I don't understand this at all. How could Voldemort not know Snape was
once his spy, how could the entire world not know after Dumbledore
spilled the beans?

> they are on the same side and working 
> for the same goal. 

Snape sure didn't seem to be acting like they were on the same side to
me and I think Harry would agree. But time will tell and perhaps you
will turn out to be right, but I wouldn't bet my life on it, and
that's what you're asking Harry to do with those Occlumency Lessons. 

> he [Snape] has certain expectations of propriety.

Now that's funny.

Eggplant



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