[HPforGrownups] Re: Time Turner...(TT during PoA)

[TrekkieGrrrl]

No: HPFGUIDX 122923

>
> TrekkieGrrrl:
>
>> So if timeline A lets you be, say 50 years old and you then jump
> back to
>> when you are20 and kill yourself, you are not creating THAT
> timeline until
>> that very point. So we actually have branching timelines. Not as
> much the
>> "All Good Things" scenario, but more like the Star Trek NG
> episode "Cause
>> and Effect" where Worf encounters several timelines AT THE SAME
> TIME. - all
>> branching from the same moment where he meets an anomaly. In HP the
> anomaly
>> is created by the use of a Time Turner but the result is the same.
> And if
>> Harry and Hermione had each their timeturner they could have left
> Timeline A
>> and created both Timeline B and C, as they would have each their
> timeline,
>> branching from timeline A, but what Harry did to Hermione in
> Timeline B
>> wouldn't affect Timeline C and vice versa.
>>
>> Gah. Now my head spins.
>
>
> Geoff:
> I think the whole point of "Cause and Effect" wasn't several
> timelines, but umpteen thousand parallel universes which I don't
> think are quite the same thing.

TrekkieGrrrl responds:

Argh.. I'm mixing things up sorry. Cause and Effect was the one where 
Enterprise is blown up. The one where they're caught in a time loop. The 
episode with Worf and the parallel universes is of course the one called 
Parallels. Heh the writers of Trek sure loved to mess with the concept of 
time.

So cause and effect doesn't work here. Parallels does in a way, if you 
believe that by creating a new timeline, you create an alternate universe.
>
> In the past, I have quoted Miles O'Brien in the episode where he
> meets his future self from five hours ahead (I can't locate the title
> at the moment) and they sit side by side and comment "I hate temporal
> mechanics!"

TrekkieGrrrl responds:
That episode is Time Sqared and that's actually a better example than  both 
Parallels and Cause and Effect because here we have two versions of the same 
characters. At the same place. But still one of them are disconnected from 
the "real" now, because you can't exist twice at the same time without 
something going awry.

I still think you can compare creating a new timeline with creating a 
parallel or alternat universe. That way, things CAN affect each other - in 
ONE reality, but not in the one you came from, thus making it possible to 
kill yourself as a child.

~Trekkie