Time Turner...(TT during PoA)

[Geoff Bannister]

No: HPFGUIDX 122967


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "TrekkieGrrrl" <trekkie at s...> 
wrote:
> > Geoff:
> > I think the whole point of "Cause and Effect" wasn't several
> > timelines, but umpteen thousand parallel universes which I don't
> > think are quite the same thing.
> 
> TrekkieGrrrl responds:
> 
> Argh.. I'm mixing things up sorry. Cause and Effect was the one 
where 
> Enterprise is blown up. The one where they're caught in a time 
loop. The 
> episode with Worf and the parallel universes is of course the one 
called 
> Parallels. Heh the writers of Trek sure loved to mess with the 
concept of 
> time.
> 
> So cause and effect doesn't work here. Parallels does in a way, if 
you 
> believe that by creating a new timeline, you create an alternate 
universe.
> >
> > In the past, I have quoted Miles O'Brien in the episode where he
> > meets his future self from five hours ahead (I can't locate the 
title
> > at the moment) and they sit side by side and comment "I hate 
temporal
> > mechanics!"
> 
> TrekkieGrrrl responds:
> That episode is Time Sqared and that's actually a better example 
than  both 
> Parallels and Cause and Effect because here we have two versions of 
the same 
> characters. At the same place. But still one of them are 
disconnected from 
> the "real" now, because you can't exist twice at the same time 
without 
> something going awry.

Geoff:
Star Trek is a good example where different TT techniques have been 
used.

Actually, we're still getting our knickers in a twist because I had 
accepted your "Cause and Effect" as the title involving Worf without 
checking.  The O'Brien episode isn't "Time Squared" - it's a DS9 
episode and I still haven't tracked the title!

We get a little nearer our HP problem perhaps with "Time Squared" 
which had Picard meeting his future self after another Enterprise 
disaster. There is also "Yesterday's Enterprise" and in both those 
cases (as in Cause and Effect) the timeline is changed. But in the 
DS9 episode and "Time Squared", the timeline accommodates two 
versions of a character at the same time but these folk are able to 
influence the timelien and change it whereas, in POA, the time-
turners are strictly enjoined not to be seen etc.

Geoff 
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