McG / DD / Re: Why should Harry be expected to listen to anyone at H

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Gerry:
I'm sorry but I'm not into political correctness. I meant exactly 
what I said, and will do so again in the future. Good and nice are 
not the same thing. Sometimes the good thing is nasty, and the nice 
thing is bad for you. Those detentions were a very good thing, in 
themselves. Not something 'horrible but with some good coming out of 
it.' They were his wake up call. No matter how unpleasant and nasty 
they were, they made him finally understand how dangerous his 
situation really was, what the real danger he had been in before had 
not managed to. Apparently he needed a more hands on experience with 
injustice and pain to get that message across, and the detentions 
did that job quite nicely. Since the detentions he actually 
understands what Umbridge is capable of, and with what she can get 
away with.


Alla: 

Basically you are saying that being tortured with the blood quill 
was a very good thing for Harry, in itself, correct?

Please forgive me for asking you to clarify again, but I would like 
to be sure.


Gerry:
Well, Maybe because this teacher is actively looking for ways to get
him expelled. Which means losing his wand and thus most of his magic.
Which is a really bad thing if he wants to be able continue fighting
Voldemort.


Alla:


Judging by the last pages of OOP, I am NOT sure at all, that Harry 
wants to continue to fight Voldemort. Do you think he is obligated 
to save WW?



 Alla wrote earlier :
I think that text does not encourage "submission" to Umbridge 
either. We clearly see at the end  that Fred and George resistance 
is approved by all teachers and they are greeted as heroes.
I admire that Harry stood up to Umbridge. He did what good person is 
supposed to do when faced with evil, IMO.


Gerry: 
snip.

Harry is a minor, and therefore subject to the department of underage
magic. He cannot quit Hogwarts, without losing his place in the
magical world. And if the prophecy is correct, deliver the magical
world to Voldemort in the process.


Alla:

Same question. Why does Harry have a duty to save WW? I am not 
talking about metathinking look at all - because Harry is the hero 
of the story, etc. I am asking why Harry who does not know that he 
is the main character in the books has a duty to save WW, who , IMO 
treats him quite horribly from times to times.


JMO,

Alla