Innocent Albus? (was RE: Why should Harry...)

justcarol67 justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Sat Jan 29 02:30:42 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 123348


Alla wrote:
> 
> Oh, OK, as long as he is not dead, it is perfectly fine to let him 
> be abducted by Voldie thing, see his classmate murdered, him being 
> forced to participate in the bizarre ritual of Voldie coming back to 
> life AND fighting for his life because I'd say but for Priori 
> Incantatem, Harry could very well end up dead at the Graveyard. Of 
> course we know looking from the outside that Rowling would not kill 
> Harry that early in the story, but looking from "within the story" 
> I'd say his death was VERY real possibility. 
> 
> Tonks wrote:
> 
> I am not saying that DD keeps him always from danger. The world is a 
> dangerous place, especially the WW. By watching over I mean that DD 
> is always there is some form when Harry needs him most, not that he 
> watches him 24/7.
> 
> 
> Alla wrote:
> 
> And I disagree with that.

Carol chimes in:
Dumbledore did show up in time to save Harry from Quirrell in SS/PS,
he provided the means (Godric Gryffindor's sword and Fawkes) for Harry
to defeat Diary!Tom in CoS, he provided the time turner suggestion
that allowed Harry and Hermione to save not only Sirius and Buckbeak
but *themselves* in PoA--yes, I know the Patronus was Harry's but he
couldn't have cast it without DD's and Hermione's help), and he saves
Harry from Voldemort in OoP--the only time so far that Harry hasn't
saved himself (with help). So I'd say that 80 percent of the time, DD
was watching over Harry and protecting him in one way or another when
he most needed it. But he *had* to let Harry do the vanquishing
himself to gain experience. There is no other way to learn to fight
Voldemort, just as (IMO) there is no other way to learn Occlumency
than to have your mind invaded and learn *by experience* to use magic
or your own mind to fight back. (I have no doubt that that's the way
snape learned, but that's another thread.)

Even in GoF, he tried to keep Harry out of the TWT with the age line
and he made sure that teachers and other powerful wizards (Charlie and
friends to deal with the dragons) were available to rescue him or the
other champions if they got into trouble (they could send up sparks if
they needed to be rescued in the Third Task). As I've argued in
another post, I also think that Dumbledore was keeping his eye on
Crouch!Moody, deducing that he was an imposter and that he had put
Harry's name in the Goblet of Fire but unable to *prove* anything
until C!M disobeyed his orders and took Harry from the field. But how
could he possibly have known that C!M had also turned the Tri-Wizard
Vup into a portkey that would transport Harry (and poor Cedric) to the
graveyard where baby!Mort and Wormtail waited? Even the most watchful,
careful mentor could not have prevented that.

Carol, who is quite willing to concede that DD is imperfect (I
couldn't abide him if he weren't), but I think he really does do his
best to guide and protect Harry 







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