[HPforGrownups] Re: Peter, Sirius, or Lupin: who was the spy again?

Kathryn Jones kjones at telus.net
Fri Jul 1 04:45:22 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 131788

dumbledore11214 wrote:
>  >
>  >    Kathy writes:
>  >         I have to do it, I just have to.  Can't help myself.
> 
> Alla :
> 
> I know I should not, I really do know that, but can't help myself
> either. :-)

> Alla:
> 
> Erm.. he was not looking for Harry with a knife, he cut Fat Lady
> with a knife, while looking for Peter and yes, it is an
> understandable  behaviour of someone who suffered twelve years
> because of certain person and was willing to find such person by any
> means.

   Kathy:
   Maybe, but you sure give him more leeway than poor, old, down-trodden 
Snape.


> Alla:
> 
> Good for Sirius. Do you know how much I wanted to see a duel between
> him and Snape  and maybe something else besides duel? :-)

   Kathy:
   But you are ignoring my point.  Who else besides Sirius is portrayed
   as the same kind of dangerous, violent, competant, veteran?  JKR made
   him that way for a reason or he would look more like Lupin.
> 

> Alla:
> 
> I can hear A LOT of what my neigbors do while being in my
> appartment. I think soundproofness of Azkaban walls is even less
> than in  my building :-)

   Kathy:
   But there is nothing in canon to support that. Azkaban could have 
walls 2 feet thick for all we know.

> Alla:
> 
> Fudge did not come visit Sirius. "When he came to inspect Azkaban
> last year , he gave me this paper" - PoA, p.363
> 
> I am sure that Minuster's regular duties include periodic inspection
> of the only ( I think) Prison in WW. As to why he gave Sirius the
> paper... I don't know - jesture of kindness :-) To make prisoner's
> life  a little bit less dull :-)

   Kathy:
     I have a hard time imagining Fudge caring if a prisoner's life was 
dull.  But if Fudge is secretly supporting Voldemort, it would explain a 
lot.  I know, I know, nothing in canon to support that either. I like 
the fact that Fudge was nicer to Sirius than to Harry.

> 
> Alla:
> 
> Sirius wanted Peter dead because he believes him to be responsible
> for Potters deaths, no?

   Kathy:
     Maybe.  But do you not think that the entire scene in the shack was 
ambiguous?

> Alla:
> 
> There were SO many people in Hogwarts, whom we can offer as Voldie's
> spy.
> 
> I suggest Minerva Mcgonagall. :-)

Kathy:
   Possibly.  I don't mind ESE Minerva.  I just think more things point 
to Sirius.  That was an exceptionally interesting post on Minerva a 
while back, though.

> Alla:
> 
> I think there is such thing as instant affection for each other.

   Kathy:

      I've never suffered from it, nor would I if on one page the person 
was choking me, and dragging my best friend around, and a few pages 
later, suggesting that I live with him.  I don't think you would either.


> Alla:
> 
> Sirius escaped to protect Harry, Sirius left his haven the moment he
> knew Harry needed him in GoF. He ate rats to be close to Harry.
> He died for Harry. To me those are signs of love.

   Kathy:
     Sirius escaped for the sole purpose of murdering Peter.  He ate 
rats to stay out of Azkaban.  When you are a dog, rats are probably not 
bad. He didn't die for Harry, he was dying of boredom and couldn't wait 
to get a little action. He had no common sense at all.


> Alla takes flying object... :-)

   Kathy crawls under computer desk. :-)

   KJ







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