Paradox of Time Travel in PoA

[davenclaw]

No: HPFGUIDX 132029

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, heather the buzzard 
<tankgirl73 at s...> wrote:
> There was nothing to change, because it always happened that way.  
This 
> is the hard part to wrap your brain around, I know.  But the idea 
is, 
> there was no *first time* and *second time*.  Time only happens 
once, 
> there can not be 2 different 'time-streams' in this theorem.  I'll 
say 
> it again, you have to step 'outside of time' and look at the whole 
> picture of past, present, future, as one entity, rather than a one-
way 
> moving stream.
> 
> It does create a paradox of sorts, but that's the way it works.  
Any 
> time travel involves paradoxes, this is just one of them.


I think the reason that I disagree with what you are saying can be 
summarized with one question: How did Harry ever get the opportunity 
to use the time-turner to summon the Patronus to drive away the 
dementors?  They were about to kill him.  How did he survive in 
order to be able to save himself?  There were a series of events 
which were altered when he went back in time.  We never see them, 
and no one knows about them.  

I think you are confusing the fact that there is no memory of the 
original events with the idea that there never was a different set 
of events.  That just cannot be the case.  Harry couldn't save 
himself until he was given the opportunity to do so.  

People have been saying that there is one time with two Harrys.  But 
until the moment in time occurred when they used the time-turner, 
there WAS NO TIME-TRAVELING HARRY in existence.  So how did Harry 
survive the Dementors?

And Dumbledore, somehow, knew that the events he had witnessed 
(Buckbeak's escape) were the result of time-travel.


davenclaw.