HELP! was Re: Paradox of Time Travel in PoA

[Karen Barker]

No: HPFGUIDX 132034

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at y...> wrote:
> In linear time, at 5:59pm, Harry, Ron, and Hermione arrive in the
> Entrance Hall and hide in the broom cupboard/closet. They hide 
> there waiting to make sure the Entrance Hall is clear. At 6:01pm, 
> they hear footsteps, those foot steps are TimeTravel!Harry and TT!
> Hermione hiding in another cupboard/closet. That's the first clue 
> that JKR gives us that both the normal characters and the 
> TimeTraveling characters are existing at the same time. A clue 
> that is re-enforced when we view the scene a second time from TT!
> Harry and TT!Hermione's perspective.
> 
> From that point on, each set of characters travels through the 
> events and sees them from their own unique persepctive, and there 
> in is the second key to the events. We don't seem time happen     
> twice, we see time happen once from two different perspectives. 
> Another way to look at it is, we don't have two times, we have one 
> time with two Harrys.
> 
> Again, the heart of understanding is to accept that time only 
> happens once. Because of time travel PEOPLE can happen twice, but 
> time only happens once.

My head hurts.

OK I've snipped some of what you said out and I do understand the 
point you're making and can accept that there is one linear timeline 
with H/Hr and TT-H/TT-Hr both moving through it at the same time but 
from a slightly different perspective.  This does actually make 
sense to me.  What I don't understand is how can TT-H have the 
memory of a patronus having been cast to save H/Hr & Sirius from the 
dementor attack that hasn't already happened yet in the linear time 
that they are both currently travelling through.  To say nothing of 
the fact that TT-h/TT-Hr are constantly referring to "Now is where 
Snape appears, now is where Peter escapes (shall I jump in and grab 
him, no you can't alter anything) etc.  TT-H/TT-Hr both have 
memories of the events as happened to H/Hr but these events were 
surely only happening the first time at the same time as they were 
being observed and anticipated.

Sorry that was really hard to put into words so I hope you get what 
I mean!

Karen