How did Fawkes' feathers end up in LV and HP's wands?

[finwitch]

No: HPFGUIDX 132890

 "davenclaw" <daveshardell at y...> :
 
> So let's say that DD gave Ollivander two feathers and asked him to 
> make wands.  Did he know that the people who had good results with 
> those wands would be special?

Finwitch:

Well, out of Unicorn Hair, Dragon heart-string and Phoenix Feathers - 
I think that Phoenix-core is strongest-- or, at least, something that 
few and great wizards have. Phoenix is also rare, and their feathers 
are few - well yes, I'd say that Phoenix wand-core DOES say something.

  Did he ask Ollivander to let him know 
> whenever anyone matched one of those wands?

Finwitch: If he didn't he has another method to know - Fawkes. Which 
also gives a thought about him and Tom the memory in the CoS to me. 
Can Dumbledore keep an eye of someone who has a wand made of Fawkes' 
feather? (He DOES say he's kept a closer eye on Harry than Harry can 
imagine -- trough Harry's wand, perhaps?) 

  Why did he use two 
> different types of wood?

Finwitch:

Why would he make two identical wands? So far as we know, Ollivander 
has made at least 3 wands with Phoenix-feather: Yew (Tom 
Riddle/Voldemort), Holly (Harry Potter) and Maple. (Some other 
phoenix gave this feather. Maybe that Quidditch team sold some the 
feathers of their Phoenix-mascot...). The Maple wand is probably 
still there to be sold. Maybe Neville buys that one.

 Did Prof DD know that young Tom Riddle was 
> in possession of a wand made from his phoenix?

Well, of course he did. Just as he knows that *HARRY* has the other 
one. If not Ollivander then Fawkes told him (and if Harry&Tom can 
talk to Snakes, maybe Dumbledore can talk to Phoenix the same way).

  Or did he not even 
> have Fawkes at that time (which, as I said above, I doubt)?

Dumbledore has had Fawkes for quite some time, I believe... they ARE 
very faithful, after all, and Fawkes was *old* when Harry met him in 
CoS. Curious how Fawkes seemed to *wait* until Harry was there to 
move on. Maybe - just maybe - Tom Riddle also witnessed Fawkes the 
Phoenix burn 50 years earlier. (as if Fawkes wanted the wand bearing 
his feather to be present when he did it or something).

  What 
> does it mean that for some 50 years the other wand sat in 
> Ollivander's shop collecting dust?

Finwitch:

Who says it did? All we know that Fawkes has given two feathers. One 
for Tom (bought about 50 years before Harry bought his, yes) and one 
for Harry - but not at what interval this happened. The second 
feather may have been donated during the prophecy, or any time 
afterwards as well.

  Does LV know that his wand is 
> made from DD's phoenix?

Finwitch: That's hard to say, but I think so.

  Does this give DD some sort of leverage 
> over LV that makes him the one wizard who LV fears?

Finwitch: Quite possibly. At least, didn't Harry hear Dumbledore's 
voice trough the song when the wands fought each other? Where did 
Fawkes' song come from? I think that in a way, Fawkes is *still* 
connected to those feathers and that's how Dumbledore keeps a close 
watch on Harry. (and Voldemort for that matter).

Finwitch