Prophecy - Did Snape hear the whole Prophecy?

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No: HPFGUIDX 133164

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "jgwahl99517" <dha at g...> wrote:
> I noticed a discrepency in what Harry was told about the prophecy 
by 
> Dumbledore (in OotP) and by Trelawney (in HBP).  It seems very 
clear 
> that Snape was the one that was listening at the door in the Hogs' 
Head and was caught by Aberforth.  Here is where the differences 
come in.
> 
> Dumbledore told Harry that the evesdropper only heard part of the 
> prophecy and reported it to Voldemort.  Trelawney told Harry in 
> Chapter 25 of HBP that she was at the interview and then felt 
funny 
> (probably when she gave the prophecy to Dumbledore) but then she 
told Harry that she remembered Snape being caught at the door.
> 
> One thing we learned from POA was that when Trelawney gives a 
> prophecy, she "blacks out" and has no recollection of what 
happened 
> during the time she is giving the prophecy.  If Snape had been 
caught before hearing the whole prophecy, she would have been in the 
middle of telling the prophecy and not been able to remember the 
interuption of the interview from its beginning.
> 
> Some questions that this brings up:
> -  Did Dumbledore send Snape back to Voldemort with orders to 
reviel 
> the first part of the prophecy but not the whole prophecy?  Since 
> Snape was probably a master of Occlemency even then, the second 
part 
> of the prophecy was still safely hidden.

Marianne:

I think the answer to this is no.  On p. 78, US edition of HBP DD 
says "There are only two people in the whole world who know the full 
contents of the prophecy...and they are both standing in this 
smelly, spidery broom shed."  Meaining the only two people who know 
are Harry and Dumbledore.

Which also plays havoc with your third question below.

jgwha:
> -  Was the reason Dumbledore trusted Snape the fact that, even 
though
> he knew entire prophecy, he only reported the first part to 
> Voldemort?  When Lily and James were killed and Harry marked, 
> Dumbledore then knew that Snape did what he was asked to do.
> -  Dumbledore and Snape would have been put in a mutually awkward 
> position.  Snape knew the whole prophecy yet did not tell 
Voldemort.  

Marianne:

I think we still don't know the whole story of why DD trusted 
Snape.  He tells Harry he believes in the sincerity of Snape's 
remorse about what happened when he, Snape, delivered the 
abbreviated version of the prophecy to Vmort.  It doesn't seem 
believable to me that DD thinks Snape is truly remorseful about 
James' death.  Maybe he had a twinge about Lily, but, even so, this 
reason seemed flimsy to me.  If this is indeed the complete story, I 
have to wonder what drugs Dumbledore was on ;-).  But, I think there 
may be more to this than what Dumbledore told Harry.  

Marianne